my s14 ls1/t56
). so looks (paint and rims) will be last thing if they every happen. on with pics (kinda in random order).
heres the headers
stock camaro mounts packed with high temp chalking. seems to really stiffin em up.
how i cut the x-member. i stoped taking pics for awhile so didnt get one of it boxed and welded out.
how it sat in there. it sit alittle lower in the end.
the hood closed. it CLOSED!
moded clutch pedal. was a PITA.
with the rad and fan.
top veiw of fan. to get it in the front had to do alittle cutting. but didnt wanna cut all of it out. how it ended up.
pic of the pan and steering rack. about 1/2-3/4 of a inch space. aint as tight as it looks. but sitting low enough.
the tranny mount and back of headers. mount was made out of 1 1/2 by 1 1/2 angle iron and it also worked great for boxing out the x-member.
little pic of gauges in the pillar, my ebay steering wheel, shifter location, and moded shifter handle. motor came with a short throw shifter. so i moded the handle to my taste.
veiw of the steering shaft going thou the headers and alittle veiw of the motor mounts. we used the stock camaro mounts packed with high temp chalking, then made new u-brackets, then made the stock x-member wider for the bracket to sit on. then drilled holes for two 1/2" grade 8 bolts.
new throttle cable bracket. made from stuff laying around that i didnt use.
the PITA master cylinder in. about 4-6 hours right there.
the motor ended up about 1/2" more forward then planed, but it was the only way to clear everything. shifter (measured from center of the shifter output to center of 240 hole) is 1 and 1/2" forward. so i aint far off from other ppl. maybe that 1/2"
whats left to do. exhaust, drive shaft, wiring (which looks easy), fuel system, then new gauges in a home made dash cluster (yet to be made), battery in truck, etc..
price to date
motor, tran, ecu, wire, shaft, shifter 3800
volt, oil pressure, water temp, gauges 176.26
hsc oil pan package 355
hsc nissan master cylinder 79
hsc new ss clutch line 83.5
shiping 18.5
steering wheel and plate plus s/h 51.87
hsc headers plus shiping 896.63
hsc cooling package and shiping 667.58
cpu vats and rear o2 removel 125
total 6253.34
fuel will be around 600. exhaust, bout 100. alum drive shaft, guessin around 300-400 dunno really. camero came with a alum one but it looks to be like 1 1/2" to 2" to short. gauges will be the last big $$$. freakin speedos are high. end goal when done, $7500. then ofcourse other stuff will follow. like rear end, and then wider rims. was tryin to hit around 10k with rims, tires and paint (paint done myself). think im going to be alittle over thou.
and the only problem i really got is the sway bar. the car was lifted up when i put the motor in and i had about 1/2" to 3/4" gap between the bar and pan. but when the car had weight added and the car sat down that little sway bar moved and is right up on the pan. i dont think bending the sway bar out alittle is going to hurt it thou.
I had to relocate mine on my LS1rx7 (we all do) so I made adapter blocks to move it forward 1.0" and down 0.75". later on I made some spacers and used longer bolts to position the endlinks farther forward where the endlinks attached to the LCAs, so it would all be relocated forward together. Its all simple stuff but kinda sneaks up on you during such a big project.
man those headers look GREAT! wow.
did you mount the clutch master cylinder on the cabin side of the firewall?
damn that radiator is BEEFY... not much room left for an intake though.
looks hella good though man, you made some fast progress and I like the way you think... fast first, then paint.
Last edited by owen v8litew8; Sep 20, 2006 at 01:27 PM.
as far as the headers go they look nice and fit good but there is one thing i would change. the driver side, second runner from the front, if the 45 degree angle was just a little higher up (alittle closer to the motor) you could place the motor back further. the headers is how i placed the motor. i did trim a little off the steering shaft u-joint to place the motor as far back as possible with the headers. but they still worked good. im sure with hinsons mount kit would fix it cause they lower the crossmember which changes the angle of the steering shaft. but i was tryin to cut cost the best i could on stuff i know i could do.
would bending the swar bar about a 1/2" mess stuff up? i know i could bend it. just a little heat and a 12 ton come-a-long would bend it or rip the front end off im sure. opinons?
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as far as the headers go they look nice and fit good but there is one thing i would change. the driver side, second runner from the front, if the 45 degree angle was just a little higher up (alittle closer to the motor) you could place the motor back further. the headers is how i placed the motor. i did trim a little off the steering shaft u-joint to place the motor as far back as possible with the headers. but they still worked good. im sure with hinsons mount kit would fix it cause they lower the crossmember which changes the angle of the steering shaft. but i was tryin to cut cost the best i could on stuff i know i could do.
would bending the swar bar about a 1/2" mess stuff up? i know i could bend it. just a little heat and a 12 ton come-a-long would bend it or rip the front end off im sure. opinons?
depending on what you're doing with the car lowering the subframe messes with the front suspension geometry. if i can get everything to fit in my S13 chassis then you surely have room to move around in your 14
. i moved the swaybar mount brackets forward until they were pretty much against the TC rod mounts and it just barely clears, but it does. i believe that heating the swaybar would cause performance issues with it as it would stress the metal in odd ways and it would lose some of it's spring effect. might even get brittle and break depending on the amount of heat and loads placed on it? nice work and good luck with the start up.
few questions for the other ls1 240 guys.
1.how much was your driveshaft from driveshaftshop.com?
2.where is the fuel pump power line up front? i tried the fuse box but nothing. may just run a new hot wire.
3. how did you hook up the stock tach? and if you could detail how you did it.
i know i had a few more questions but forgot. thank you in advance.
2. Fuel Pump is in the F9 or F8 plug I dont remeber. I just ran a wire from the LS1 box to the back.
3. Stock Tach I used the Dakota Digital Tach adaptor which adjusts the signal
if one knows anything about them blinkers/parking lights throw the info my way. thanks.
would it be a bad idea to just hook my fuel pump to the ign and put a inline fuse on it? it will do the same as hooking it up to the ecu right? then no need for a relay. what about doing the same to the fan? i want it to run cool. 185-195 i guess. i just wanna make the motor last.
doesnt the ecu shut down the engine at a set temp? and does this work w/o hooking up more then the basic wireing to make it run. atm the only wires i have hooked up are the 5 ign wires the 1 orange one and the ground (just like the faq said). the only other ones im plan on use is for the speedo, tach and the diagnostic plug.
can you give some more details on the converter for the tach and speedo? like where to get and which one to get and how to install maybe? thanks.
found their site. did you get it direct from them and is this the ones you got?
Last edited by fouz65; Oct 4, 2006 at 07:05 PM.

