Question for Dakota LS1 swap..
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Question for Dakota LS1 swap.. I have a chance to buy back my old 2000 Dakota for 500 bucks and I thought is might be a good project swap for a turbo ls1. The donor truck is a Regular cab auto 6 banger and has tons of room under the hood for whatever i want to fit. The only problem is that i havent found anyone that has done this swap before. I guess my main question is, Is thier anyone out there that has done this swap or similar? Or am I just barking up the wrong tree? I know you can stuff an LSX into anything if you have deep enough pockets. Also would enyone think this swap would be worth it?
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Go for it dude, but you're on your own when it comes to anyone else doing that swap. Just don't tell the other Dak R/T guys of your plans. They'll want to hurt you. I was a Dodge Tech for 10 years and although the 5.9 is a good engine when modded in the right way it doesn't hold a candle to the mighty LS1. You'll have to upgrade the rear end though as they eat pinion bearings with out any load in the truck. LS1/T56 in a Dakota short bed would be sick dude.
getting a motor physicaly into a vehicle is almost always the easiest part of a swap... the issues come with what fuel system are you going to run, the wiring etc.
for sure buy it. buy some universal LS1 mounts, or cut and weld F body mounts onto the truck. i think it would be a great swap. i like the dakotas much more than S10s personaly..
for sure buy it. buy some universal LS1 mounts, or cut and weld F body mounts onto the truck. i think it would be a great swap. i like the dakotas much more than S10s personaly..
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Hey, thanks for the replies. Any recommendations for a fuel system? I can run a fuel cell if I have to. no big deal. Also anyone have any ideas for a rear end?
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I like this but how about a new Hemi motor keep it all mopar. Either way it will be a kool truck.
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Hey, thanks for the replies. Any recommendations for a fuel system? I can run a fuel cell if I have to. no big deal. Also anyone have any ideas for a rear end?
You could upgrade the in-tank fuel pump to a higher flowing one but you'd have to drop the tank. The Daks have a returnless system. As for the rear end I'd personally use a disc brake equipped Ford 8.8 from an F-150 or E-150 as they're a proven rear end as opposed to the junk Dodge 9.25. You'd have to redrill the axles to match the 6 bolt patern of the Dak. Speartech seems to be the best harness to use along with what ever ECU came with the engine. Headers might be you're biggest obstacle though.
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if the Dakota has a returnless sytem it means that it has a varitable pump just like the F body.. so you could just use the Dakota pump if it has enough fuel pressure. if it dosent. swap in a complete F body tank from the junkyard. its what im doing in my swap.
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Wow thanks for the help. I will probly use a 255 pump and and try to use all that I can on the truck so I can fab as little as possible. my plans are to add a power adder later but my main concern is getting it running and driving first. My goal is 500/500 to the ground and ill be happy. Traction is going to be my biggest issue later on.
And E36LUVA I think your right about the headers. What would you recommend for test fitting? Im going to try to get a used set later on but i dont want to waste my money if they wont work.
And E36LUVA I think your right about the headers. What would you recommend for test fitting? Im going to try to get a used set later on but i dont want to waste my money if they wont work.
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Originally Posted by 785T/A
Wow thanks for the help. I will probably use a 255 pump and and try to use all that I can on the truck so I can fab as little as possible. my plans are to add a power adder later but my main concern is getting it running and driving first. My goal is 500/500 to the ground and ill be happy. Traction is going to be my biggest issue later on.
And E36LUVA I think your right about the headers. What would you recommend for test fitting? I'm going to try to get a used set later on but i don't want to waste my money if they wont work.
And E36LUVA I think your right about the headers. What would you recommend for test fitting? I'm going to try to get a used set later on but i don't want to waste my money if they wont work.
I'm assuming that your truck is 2WD, if so you have rack & pinion steering which gets in the way of the headers usually. Mopar Perfomance makes a great set of headers for the 5.9 Dak but the routing of the tubes resemble that of a SBC with the two middle tubes close together but if you get a used set try to eyeball it to see if its feasible to cut and bend the tubes to make them fit an LS1 flange. Like I said, this is uncharted territory dude. As for the fuel pump, just remove the fuel pump module to gain access to the pump and slip in a high volume unit cuz the stock one will definitely not flow enough.
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Originally Posted by E36LUVA
I'm assuming that your truck is 2WD, if so you have rack & pinion steering which gets in the way of the headers usually. Mopar Perfomance makes a great set of headers for the 5.9 Dak but the routing of the tubes resemble that of a SBC with the two middle tubes close together but if you get a used set try to eyeball it to see if its feasible to cut and bend the tubes to make them fit an LS1 flange. Like I said, this is uncharted territory dude. As for the fuel pump, just remove the fuel pump module to gain access to the pump and slip in a high volume unit cuz the stock one will definitely not flow enough.
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Originally Posted by 785T/A
Thank you for the heads up info. Im doing this swap in Kansas at my dads shop. I really would like to turbo the setup thus changing the header problem. But if I really have issues with the boosted part I might hit up Parish with a few questions since he is not too far away and comes down to KC once in a while.
Yeah that dude's got an awesome truck. Never met him seen but his truck all over the web. He knows his **** for sure.
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Heres a qustion. Lets say I get a new rear end from f150 or chevy 1500 and all. What could i use in the front spindle area wise to match the rear lug pattern? Any ideas? I heard something about s10's bieng usable but havent found much.
That will work if you are going from 4-5 or vice versa, but I believe you'll have more than one interference holes going from 5-6. You could have someone weld the holes up and then turn it on a lathe to true it up, but with all the cost and hassle it'd probably be better to just get some aftermarket axles.