kansaschity

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get a steering quickener
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/p/2025...Quickener.html

datboibrad

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trust me you do not want to try drifting without power steering. atleast on stock steering ratio. a few companies have modded setups to get really short steering ratios to get like full lock at half lock etc. just depends. honestly its not worth doing.

diognes56

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Nice score . If I was to get a 240 that is the bodystyle that I would get, I just think it looks more agressive than the others. Can't seem to find any like that for a reasonable price around here though. Probably for the best anyway, one project at a time. Good luck with the swap.

David

owen v8litew8

fawk, I thought I was stoked for buying a black 97 auto last week but you made out like a freaking bandit! like I said before, FAWK! well done man, amazing price! the manual swap is easy peasy while doing an LS1 conversion because you can use an s13 or s14 pedal box and then continue with the aftermarket clutch master cylinder and clutchlines like any other LS1 swapper would need. you can just cut the brake pedal to size or you can swap out the entire pedal box for one from a manual trans chassis.

here's mine, its soooooooo clean its like its only 2-3 yrs old-
I have no idea when I'll be LS1 swapping mine, the FC is more than enough fun.

natedawg

with the powersteering gone less drag on the motor/ cleaner engine bay/ get rid of the steering box for header room. just gotta find some manual rack. i'm sure i could rig something up. did S12s have power steering? just pondering ideas

datboibrad

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still asking why the manual steering rack. btw ps isnt that big of a "drag" on the motor.

murphy660

^a lot of people like the feel of now power steering. you get alot more steering feel without it. it is not bad driving without it when up to speed. if you really want to move it or its for keeping drag off the motor. get an electric one. wire up a mr2 one and you're set

owen v8litew8

Ive had power and non power, theyre both okay, but I'd have to say power steering is the best.

I would probably want a manual rack on a roadcourse for precise feel and steering thats never too easy, but for every other kind of driving and racing, I'd want power steering.

Ted J

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Yeah, I don't think it takes a lot of drag and I personally feel it's worth it for the drag it does take. Some people that are drifting with a manual rack are normally the lighter cars, like AE86's, and even some of them speak of having strong arms after a while of drifting and eventually are planning on upgrading to power steering.

Also keep in mind that you can adjust the feel of the power steering on some of the power steering systems (don't know if you can buy them for stock 240 racks or GM racks for that matter), especiallly the dirt track racers, where on the racks they run they can switch out the tensioning rod to adjust how much assitance you get. In the dirt track case, where steering quickers are used pretty commonly, they really need the added assitance that power steering gives them for it would be hard to manually move the rack back and forth that quickly with human power alone.

That's my $.02 on it.

datboibrad

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well some of the guys running manual racks have modified steering shafts so the need to turn alot is reduced greatly. but the avg joe out there lives off his ps.

Ted J

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Need to turn a lot is reduced, you mean they change the ratio so it takes more turns if the steering wheel to go lock to lock but it increases their mechnical advantage?

datboibrad

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no im saying the need to turn is reduced. much like open wheel f1 karts that can make a 90* degree turn almost with half the effort involved in making the same turn in a regular car.

574-240sx

Good price on the kouki. Nobody runs manual racks in 240s. Most cap off the system with fluid in it but most eventually go back.

natedawg

bump for progress picked up a 2000 ls1 with 4l60e behind it now to find a t-56. if you have one in midwest or are interested in the 4l60e pm me or email me.

natedawg

also can anyone recommend a good place to send my PCM to unlock it disable o2, ect. ?

mmdb

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Street and performance are ok. Their prices are up their, but they provide good service.

natedawg

whats the link to street and performance?

owen v8litew8

I sent mine to Speartech and service was awesome but he is expensive, worth it for good service but expensive.

I think others have used bubbatune and pcmforless with good results.

cingham

I just can't get into the cost of that kit for me to ever get excited about one of these projects from Hinson.

natedawg

i'm not planning on using anything hinson makes doing all my own fab work.