The Poorman's M5, E60 w/LS7 V8
#21
E39 swaps I'm aware of:
One completed: http://www.members.aol.com/hagancue/
One planned: http://www.ls2bmw.com/
There may be others, and I'd like to join them sometime.
One completed: http://www.members.aol.com/hagancue/
One planned: http://www.ls2bmw.com/
There may be others, and I'd like to join them sometime.
#22
Thank You!
Thanks again.
Troy
#23
I don 't think so. You can buy the TIS and ETK disks on Ebay and I am sure someone sells old WDS disks as well. www.realoem.com pretty much makes the ETK obsolete so long as it is around.
#24
Can relates to alot more systems than most think. There is more than one can bus as well. If you are building a race car then yes you can get rid of all these systems, but since you are not, you better bail on this thought right now. Mounting it doing cooling system and so forth is the easy part. Wiring this engine with the current systems will never happen. Each module interfaces back and forth via seperate can buses and each module "talks" to each other via special code that is specific to Bmw. Simulating this code would be impossible. If you want the dsc light on, ac not to work, none of gauges to work or ews completely disabled then do this swap. All you will have is a car that isnt worth anything to anyone else or you. Wait a few years and buy an M5 when the price on a used one goes down. I drive these cars on a daily basis and the balance of power, handling, braking and comfort is second 2 none. Hope I have filled your head with enlightning knowledge and directed you in a way of logical thinking. Josh
#27
Can relates to alot more systems than most think. There is more than one can bus as well. If you are building a race car then yes you can get rid of all these systems, but since you are not, you better bail on this thought right now. Mounting it doing cooling system and so forth is the easy part. Wiring this engine with the current systems will never happen. Each module interfaces back and forth via seperate can buses and each module "talks" to each other via special code that is specific to Bmw. Simulating this code would be impossible. If you want the dsc light on, ac not to work, none of gauges to work or ews completely disabled then do this swap. All you will have is a car that isnt worth anything to anyone else or you. Wait a few years and buy an M5 when the price on a used one goes down. I drive these cars on a daily basis and the balance of power, handling, braking and comfort is second 2 none. Hope I have filled your head with enlightning knowledge and directed you in a way of logical thinking. Josh
I am researching the E39. What are your comments on E39? Thanks!
#29
#31
The e39 is an easier car to do the swap on, but will still be a challenge. It still runs a can bus that communicates dme and dsc along with many other modules. I think the e39 would be a good car to do the swap into because the value of the car wont be hurt by doing an lsx swap. The e60 is worth some money because of being newer and would not be worth the swap. Like others have said do some question asking and searching for answers on the e39 swap. Good Luck, Josh
#32
Can relates to alot more systems than most think. There is more than one can bus as well. If you are building a race car then yes you can get rid of all these systems, but since you are not, you better bail on this thought right now. Mounting it doing cooling system and so forth is the easy part. Wiring this engine with the current systems will never happen. Each module interfaces back and forth via seperate can buses and each module "talks" to each other via special code that is specific to Bmw. Simulating this code would be impossible. If you want the dsc light on, ac not to work, none of gauges to work or ews completely disabled then do this swap. All you will have is a car that isnt worth anything to anyone else or you. Wait a few years and buy an M5 when the price on a used one goes down. I drive these cars on a daily basis and the balance of power, handling, braking and comfort is second 2 none. Hope I have filled your head with enlightning knowledge and directed you in a way of logical thinking. Josh
#33
#34
Searching for donor E39
I am now searching for a donor E39. Once I find one, I will try to talk the wife into letting me buy it....just the first step.
I will be getting a 6 speed car for sure. Is it better to get V8 or I6? I have read differing information about which is better. Sounds like the rear end & brake booster are better on the V8, but the I6 has rack & pinion.
I am thinking the rear end would be more expensive to replace than getting the V8 booster. However, there are a lot of very nice low cost I6 cars to choose from. 540/6spd's are much harder to find.
I will be getting a 6 speed car for sure. Is it better to get V8 or I6? I have read differing information about which is better. Sounds like the rear end & brake booster are better on the V8, but the I6 has rack & pinion.
I am thinking the rear end would be more expensive to replace than getting the V8 booster. However, there are a lot of very nice low cost I6 cars to choose from. 540/6spd's are much harder to find.
#35
I am now searching for a donor E39. Once I find one, I will try to talk the wife into letting me buy it....just the first step.
I will be getting a 6 speed car for sure. Is it better to get V8 or I6? I have read differing information about which is better. Sounds like the rear end & brake booster are better on the V8, but the I6 has rack & pinion.
I am thinking the rear end would be more expensive to replace than getting the V8 booster. However, there are a lot of very nice low cost I6 cars to choose from. 540/6spd's are much harder to find.
I will be getting a 6 speed car for sure. Is it better to get V8 or I6? I have read differing information about which is better. Sounds like the rear end & brake booster are better on the V8, but the I6 has rack & pinion.
I am thinking the rear end would be more expensive to replace than getting the V8 booster. However, there are a lot of very nice low cost I6 cars to choose from. 540/6spd's are much harder to find.
#36
I'd focus on what is not going to change - the condition of the seats and the rest of the interior. Get a 525 or 528 with the premium and/or sport package for all the interior goodies you'll want. There's bound to be several out there with good interiors but not so great mechanicals.
540i front brakes are bigger. Not positive, but I think the suspension was a bit heavier duty as well.
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Cam72aro, what is your advice on rear diff? I'd like to have a BMW LSD. I'm targeting 400 rwhp and using a T56 transmission in an E34 for Round 1. (Round 2 will be an E46 or E39.)
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540i front brakes are bigger. Not positive, but I think the suspension was a bit heavier duty as well.
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Cam72aro, what is your advice on rear diff? I'd like to have a BMW LSD. I'm targeting 400 rwhp and using a T56 transmission in an E34 for Round 1. (Round 2 will be an E46 or E39.)
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#37
Just letting you know, they can be changed to work, and its not so much resistance. A simple way to explain it is say it a bar values 1-10. Lets say the signal for the oil gauge is sent is 1-2-6-7- then the coolant gauge is 1-4-5-7 and so on. It can be done.
Last edited by NewAge; 01-29-2008 at 07:21 AM.
#38
I am now searching for a donor E39. Once I find one, I will try to talk the wife into letting me buy it....just the first step.
I will be getting a 6 speed car for sure. Is it better to get V8 or I6? I have read differing information about which is better. Sounds like the rear end & brake booster are better on the V8, but the I6 has rack & pinion.
I am thinking the rear end would be more expensive to replace than getting the V8 booster. However, there are a lot of very nice low cost I6 cars to choose from. 540/6spd's are much harder to find.
I will be getting a 6 speed car for sure. Is it better to get V8 or I6? I have read differing information about which is better. Sounds like the rear end & brake booster are better on the V8, but the I6 has rack & pinion.
I am thinking the rear end would be more expensive to replace than getting the V8 booster. However, there are a lot of very nice low cost I6 cars to choose from. 540/6spd's are much harder to find.
#39
On a obd 1 car such as your yes. On an obd 2 no. Question for you. How many signals are sent over 1 can line? Also do you know what a can high and can low line looks like on an o scope?
#40
I'd focus on what is not going to change - the condition of the seats and the rest of the interior. Get a 525 or 528 with the premium and/or sport package for all the interior goodies you'll want. There's bound to be several out there with good interiors but not so great mechanicals.
540i front brakes are bigger. Not positive, but I think the suspension was a bit heavier duty as well.
[hijack]
Cam72aro, what is your advice on rear diff? I'd like to have a BMW LSD. I'm targeting 400 rwhp and using a T56 transmission in an E34 for Round 1. (Round 2 will be an E46 or E39.)
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540i front brakes are bigger. Not positive, but I think the suspension was a bit heavier duty as well.
[hijack]
Cam72aro, what is your advice on rear diff? I'd like to have a BMW LSD. I'm targeting 400 rwhp and using a T56 transmission in an E34 for Round 1. (Round 2 will be an E46 or E39.)
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