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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 08:52 PM
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I read most feel strut tower braces don't work on coupes but does it help our verts? I would consider it if it is not a paperweight, lol.
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Old Dec 6, 2014 | 04:49 PM
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Absolutely. I put a 3 point on my 99 Vert along with weld in subframe connectors. I would have them in my 02 Vert except I may be selling it as a super low mileage ultra original car. If I decide to keep her, she will absolutely be getting SFCs and a STB.
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Old Dec 6, 2014 | 10:16 PM
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Thanks GR8RYD, sfc's would be a bit stiff for me being a street car in NYC. You sure do like red cars lol. I know there is extra support & weight on the bottom for verts. So you thing I will notice a difference with just the stb?
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Old Dec 6, 2014 | 10:57 PM
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I'm not sure what you mean by too stiff for a street car. Neither SFC or STB will increase the stiffness of the suspension. They make the chassis more rigid. If anything that will improve the ride since it keeps the flex in the shock absorbers where it belongs.
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I did not know that and thought sfcs would feel stiffer like a car for the drag strip. Thanks for the clarification.
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Old Dec 8, 2014 | 12:36 AM
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I have both weld in SFC's and a 2pt STB on mine and they definitely help.

Definitely wont make the ride stiffer (that's the job of all the other crap I've thrown on the car...) but those two reinforcements help your suspension do it's job better by minimizing flex as mentioned earlier.
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both SFC's and STB should have come from the factory on these cars, the SFC's should be your first addition if you cant afford both at once.
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Old Dec 8, 2014 | 08:38 AM
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both SFC's and STB should have come from the factory on these cars, the SFC's should be your first addition if you cant afford both at once.
Anyone know the combined weight of these two parts? Considering purchasing them
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Originally Posted by scotty2000ss
Anyone know the combined weight of these two parts? Considering purchasing them
UMI STB: 4.5lbs steel / 4lbs chrome molly
Not sure about the SFC weight. The 3-point chrome molly one is $100 more and weighs 5lbs less.

It's not a tremendous amount of weight. The added chassis rigidity is more than worth the slight weight penalty. On acceleration chassis flex wastes energy bending the car that would otherwise get to the ground to push the car.
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Originally Posted by Carguy8888
I did not know that and thought sfcs would feel stiffer like a car for the drag strip. Thanks for the clarification.
I found no significant change to the way my car rode. The biggest benefit to me (on my 99) was that the car would last longer. I had a 91 Z28 Vert that I failed to add these upgrades to. Over the years, it literally vibrated itself to death. Screws came loose inside the doors and all over the car. I am convinced that had I put these two upgrades on that car, I might still have it today. I still consider it to be the best looking car of it's kind that GM ever built.
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Wow, great info.
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buy the sfc's and don't look back !
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I saw the umi boltons, thats the plan ty.
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had strut tower brace on my 99 and it made things stiffer as far as chassis but never got around to subframe connectors
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Great, so I will feel something.
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Originally Posted by Carguy8888
I saw the umi boltons, thats the plan ty.
Weld on SFC's are generally preferred as there is no possibility for bolt holes to stretch/loosen. But I guess you can weld the bolt on version too.
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While its on the lift I will have them tack it as well. I don't plan on removing them.
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Old Dec 22, 2014 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by FastrDamnit!
Weld on SFC's are generally preferred as there is no possibility for bolt holes to stretch/loosen. But I guess you can weld the bolt on version too.
The only difference between the weld-in and bolt-in UMI braces is the bolt hardware. They can easily be welded in later.
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I have a 3pt STB and 3pt bolt in SFC's in my vert, love them. YMMV
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Originally Posted by 99'CajunFirehawk157
I have a 3pt STB and 3pt bolt in SFC's in my vert, love them. YMMV
Good deal, I really enjoyed your youtube sequntial tailight with creed weathered vid.
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