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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 11:21 AM
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I am planning on ordering a Rollbar from Wolf next week.
Could you please give me some of your experience on do's and don'ts.
I am still not sure on a 5 point or 6 point, bolt-in or weld-in and swing out.
I am planning a H/C mod and want to run low 11's
This will be occasional driver that I plan to racing 2 to 3 times a mpnth at a NHRA and IRHA track and it will need to be legal. I still would like to be able to put my small children in the back if needed with some bar pads.
Also, what is the weight difference between the weld-in and bolt-in?
What is your thoughts?
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Old Dec 8, 2004 | 06:59 PM
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I had the wolferacecraft rollbar for convertibles, seem to be ok. Was easy to get in and out of. You could stil fit kids in the back, no adults though.
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 04:47 PM
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I have run around with adults in my back seat in my vert with a 5 point wolfe...but then again , Adults in Albany are smaller than the Adults I met in Clinton Township

I wouldnt say it was exactly comfy, but it works. Best to put pads on the bars just in case.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 10:15 PM
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get the swing out for sure. The bar might be in the way and sometimes you might not feel like jumping over a bar to get in your car.

also, on the wolfe site they say that a removeable crossbar isnt nhra legal but a few here have said that if you just cove the bolt ends with padding you wont have any trouble.........also, you need at least a 5 point and the bar has to be al least in between your elbow and shoulder.

personally, i would get the 5 point with swing outs and the removeable crossbar because this is my daily driver....
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 10:19 AM
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I run the 4-point Wolfe with removable cross-bar. Our track is laxed with the rules so I can get away with it.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 03:07 PM
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5-point bolt-in here.

Smack the crown of your head with a 1.75" steel tube at 5MPH (Oh yeah wrap it in foam first)

Now repeat at 10MPH, 20MPH etc., on your friends and loved ones. Roll bars and heads dont mix.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 05:03 PM
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True, but what is worse? Head vs bar or head vs pavement. :dunno:
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 05:35 PM
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I have a 6 point Wolf bolt-in in my 02 SS. It's pretty easy to get in and out of but I have my rear seats out for no passengers.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Ed Blown Vert
True, but what is worse? Head vs bar or head vs pavement. :dunno:
Its all about probabilty.

The chance of flipping a vert while driving with passengers is slim. For me never because I dont push the car while I have passengers.

The chance of getting popped in the side while christmas shopping at your favorite mall is very likely. Worse yet, t-boned at an intersection while driving 40 mph.

From a moral standpoint, its wrong to put someone back there. From a litigation standpoint it will be your a$$. I doubt auto insurance would cover injury or death due to a roll bar.

Now I will step off the soapbox and cruise around looking for a street race
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 09:43 AM
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imo, i dont think its that bad of an idea. with the removeable crossbar, pading and making sure the passengers have their belts on, then they should be find. Also add some chill cruising and the only thing u have to worry about is they somehow get lifted off the seat an smack the upper bars.......

personally, i know i'll have less people in the car after the rollbar because which means more time to have fun....(insert evil laugh) and when i do.well, i would have to show SOME restraint

just go for, it seems like a subjective topic.......u need to have one if you want to the at the track and its also is an added security feature because even though its less likely, u never know wat will happen.
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 10:54 AM
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I have a 6pt bolt-in with swing outs that i take after racing and during winter months I'm going to take entire cage out since I dont need it for four months out of the year. Yes small kids can fit in back with roll bar .
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 07:35 PM
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I just order my 8 point from S&Wracecar and need some advise what color to powder color to go with
the car is red and black int
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 10:05 PM
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Have a 5 point here...did the install a few weeks ago and was quite a bit of work. Welding took a good 8-10hrs at least...with the TIG.

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I got the swing out option and low slung option. This is a daily driver that will probably see the track once or twice a month.

Yeah putting people, esp small children, in the back...is seriously NOT a good idea. I have my rear seats out anyway, to save weight, and because I know I would never want to subject anyone to what could possibly happen
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 03:52 PM
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Get a six point since IHRA now requires that. Swingouts are ok, but I keep my door bars off except when going to the track.

I custom did my bars to be higher in the back for extra kid headroom. I made the crossbar removable too, but that's not legal. A tight padding job hides it from inspection.

DO NOT LET ADULTS RIDE IN THE BACK. in almost any crash scenario above 10 mph, they will hit their heads on one of the bars.
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 07:54 AM
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No bolt in roll bars either. Track and NHRA rules state that they have to be welded in to the car and welded together. I wish they would let me run at the track with the top down and a roll bar. Just to see if my previous post holds water.
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 08:49 AM
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No bolt in roll bars either. Track and NHRA rules state that they have to be welded in to the car and welded together. I wish they would let me run at the track with the top down and a roll bar. Just to see if my previous post holds water.
I got a weld in because of this...however, I do not understand the reasoning behind it? I would think a bolt in would be extremely strong. Very strong, if not just as strong, or almost as strong as a welded
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by SSnakekiller
I got a weld in because of this...however, I do not understand the reasoning behind it? I would think a bolt in would be extremely strong. Very strong, if not just as strong, or almost as strong as a welded
I dunno? I just know that is the rule. If your track enforces it is another story. Weld in = pain in the *** but whatever right.
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 08:58 AM
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Even though mine is a daily, I had no prob deciding on the permanent weld in cage. I never use the back seats. Car has 42k on it and I have had the back seats out since about 5k.
It was always a matter of making the time to weld it in and I knew it would be a big job. I dont at all mind having it because I get the extra safety anywhere I go...track, street, 1 mile down to the grocery store...wherever. When you are making much more power than stock, I think it is good insurance on your life.
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