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Old Sep 15, 2009 | 12:14 PM
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hey guys, i'm new to the boards, been reading alot and just kinda watching what everyone has to say, pretty impressed with the site and all the help and knowledge floating around.

i have a 2000 c5 with a the vr ram intake, slp maf (which i've heard is garbage), borla cat back and x-pipe and some other minor stuff.

i can't decide what would be best to get from here. a fast intake manifold or some headers? are the BBK shorty headers any good and get a decent gain? i'm am assuming that i wouldn't have to change the xpipe if i got the shorties and they are deffly cheaper. or should i bite the bullet and go for LT's and a new xpipe.
or should i get the fast intake?? not quite sure, just wondering what some of you thought.
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Old Sep 15, 2009 | 12:45 PM
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Kook headers and 150shot of nitrous and predator from Diablosport.
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Old Sep 15, 2009 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Black00C5
hey guys, i'm new to the boards, been reading alot and just kinda watching what everyone has to say, pretty impressed with the site and all the help and knowledge floating around.

i have a 2000 c5 with a the vr ram intake, slp maf (which i've heard is garbage), borla cat back and x-pipe and some other minor stuff.

i can't decide what would be best to get from here. a fast intake manifold or some headers? are the BBK shorty headers any good and get a decent gain? i'm am assuming that i wouldn't have to change the xpipe if i got the shorties and they are deffly cheaper. or should i bite the bullet and go for LT's and a new xpipe.
or should i get the fast intake?? not quite sure, just wondering what some of you thought.
Go for the longtubes and a good tune.
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Old Sep 15, 2009 | 04:30 PM
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No question, Headers.
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Old Sep 15, 2009 | 05:40 PM
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FAST intake will really shine when you start dumping other mods into it like big heads, big cam and intake. but not worth the $ on a stock car with nothing else.

but the headers are going to be the best bang for the buck on a stock engine.

i would definitely go headers, and dont waste your $ with shorties.
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Old Sep 15, 2009 | 05:53 PM
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thanks for the insight

my car is lowered tho, am i going to scrape everywhere i go if i get LT's?? is there anything better than the LG's also?
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Old Sep 15, 2009 | 06:16 PM
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Dont go shorties! longtubes for sure!! kooks or arh headers. and yes headers over intake anyday. You also dont need that fast intake unless you plan on making alot of horsepower down the road. They really shine when you start to get alot of power.. As far as trying to apply it with basic bolt ons forget it.. Its a complete ripoff. If your just doing bolt ons or whatever get a ls6 intake! Much more worth it and will provide great results! O and welcome to the site
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Old Sep 15, 2009 | 06:38 PM
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Kook headers and 150shot of nitrous and predator from Diablosport.
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long tubes won't rub
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headers x-pipe and LS6. If you can afford it get a $300-$400 Z06 ti catback.
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Old Sep 15, 2009 | 10:42 PM
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it already had a borla stinger cat back on it when i bought it...thats just as good as the z06 ti one, right? either way, the LG street headers and xpipe are proly the set up i wanna go with... LG runs around 1000 and kooks around 850. any other place to look for headers at??
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 01:17 AM
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it already had a borla stinger cat back on it when i bought it...thats just as good as the z06 ti one, right? either way, the LG street headers and xpipe are proly the set up i wanna go with... LG runs around 1000 and kooks around 850. any other place to look for headers at??
yes that borla stinger catback is good..the zo6 ti is just lighter so it saves weight. lg's are good but kooks are just as good. If you want to save a little money go with kooks. Either way you will be satisfied with the results. Any other mods you interested in doing or thats its for now? cam? heads? ewp? etc.. i ask because its best to get everything done with so you can get it tuned once and be done with it. Also for tuning purposes you may want to go back to stock maf.

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Headers... With a tune they'll make the biggest difference out of any bolt on.
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Get some Twin Turbo manifolds.... and bolt turbos to them.


Back to your main question.... headers for sure.
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 01:57 PM
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ARH LT w/ LS6 Intake and dump that vr ram intake its garbage... get callaway or Halltech, and then get a good tune, you can find the best tuners on this site not sure for FL but Pat G is the **** in Texas. And welcome to the site!
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ARH LT w/ LS6 Intake and dump that vr ram intake its garbage... get callaway or Halltech, and then get a good tune, you can find the best tuners on this site not sure for FL but Pat G is the **** in Texas. And welcome to the site!
That's the first time I've heard anyone call the vararam garbage. Not saying it's true or not, but I'm just saying I've never heard that.
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That's the first time I've heard anyone call the vararam garbage. Not saying it's true or not, but I'm just saying I've never heard that.
Its really flimsy its just feels cheap and is a huge pain to put in, my buddy had it, now he has the callaway and it looks great and its well worth the money. Just my 2 cents!
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 09:32 PM
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it does feel kinda flimsy, but i'm sure it makes some power, some is better than none...and it was on there when i bought the car, so i'm proly not gonna change it for awhile.

so does anyone object to the LG headers, or is there another good brand for cheaper?
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Originally Posted by NoTractionLS1
ARH LT w/ LS6 Intake and dump that vr ram intake its garbage... get callaway or Halltech, and then get a good tune, you can find the best tuners on this site not sure for FL but Pat G is the **** in Texas. And welcome to the site!
"garbage"


One of te best bang for the buck bolt on parts,... and a proven track device. The Vararam weather you like it or not works better then any system that we have ever come across for an NA car. It' not a dyno numbers unit.....and I never met a tuner that LIKEs the vararam,...... but it works, and works very very well.
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 10:46 PM
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Headers hands down!
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by NoTractionLS1
Its really flimsy its just feels cheap and is a huge pain to put in, my buddy had it, now he has the callaway and it looks great and its well worth the money. Just my 2 cents!
Ha,...truth comes out. Nothing good in life should be easy. Nothing. The diablosport crews seen me install a vararam with a floor jack, allen driver,and a pair of needle nose. Also have installed them with my giant tool box full of whatever tool. It isn't that hard, regardless of skill,... it does however, require some patience,... which I have little of. Which is a sign for everyone,... you can do it.

Originally Posted by Black00C5
it does feel kinda flimsy, but i'm sure it makes some power, some is better than none...and it was on there when i bought the car, so i'm proly not gonna change it for awhile.

so does anyone object to the LG headers, or is there another good brand for cheaper?
Vararam feels flimsy,.... vagina feels mushy. Either way,.. both great and well worth the investment. The LG pro's were on both my cars and I thought they were great for my small cub'd motors. Had a small issue here or there since my car is super low but,... no issues that were a problem.


American Racing, Kooks, Stainless works, are all products I would run on my own car or friends.
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