C5 vs. Fbody
I have both as well and the Vette is a much better all around car. The fbody is very good at one thing and that is drag racing. In every other aspect it leaves alot to be desired. I get compliments on both, however from different groups as most have said. It is all in what you want, but given a choice, I prefer driving the vette.
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I have both as well and the Vette is a much better all around car. The fbody is very good at one thing and that is drag racing. In every other aspect it leaves alot to be desired. I get compliments on both, however from different groups as most have said. It is all in what you want, but given a choice, I prefer driving the vette.
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Well when you come in saying "The fbody is very good at one thing and that is drag racing. In every other aspect it leaves alot to be desired."
And you clearly have your fbody set up to only go strait I couldn't help but to comment.
Simple, relatively inexpensive bolt-ins gets you C5 Z06 like handling...
Ofcourse, but talking class for class (basically bolt-ons and sticky tires) the fbody is nipping at the heels of the modded vettes. Too many people underrate these things.
And you clearly have your fbody set up to only go strait I couldn't help but to comment.
Simple, relatively inexpensive bolt-ins gets you C5 Z06 like handling...
Ofcourse, but talking class for class (basically bolt-ons and sticky tires) the fbody is nipping at the heels of the modded vettes. Too many people underrate these things.
Obviously depending on the extent of mods and what you're considering a modded vette. There's no doubt the Fbody with simple suspension bolt-on upgrades and sticky tires could handle right with or edge out a stock C5. I hear so many Fbody owners think a C5 is simply a two seated Fbody, which is far from true. In no way am I taking anything away from the Fbody, but it is what it is. The vette is simply just in a different class, anyone who wants to, blame GM for that one.
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I hear so many Fbody owners think a C5 is simply a two seated Fbody, which is far from true.
In no way am I taking anything away from the Fbody, but it is what it is. The vette is simply just in a different class, anyone who wants to, blame GM for that one.
I will own a C5 Z06 some day, one of the biggest things holding me back is the fact that I would have to dump addition money into modding it to out handle my Fbody now though...
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This was my evolution:
1999 Trans Am (heavily modified - springs, welded and cross-braced sub-frame, panhard bar, control arms, Bilstein shocks, Strut-tower brace, and cammed to over 380rwhp)
http://www.angelfire.com/on2/Vinnie/myta2.html
Trans Am Couldn't hold a candle to my bone stock 2003 Z06 in braking, handling or acceleration...
My 2006 Z51 Coupe was actually a small step down in performance over the 2003 Z06, but had some really phenomenal creature comforts (satellite radio, navigation, heated seats, power everything, et. al.)
So missing the rawness of the 2003 Z06 but not wanting to sacrifice the creature comforts of the 2006 Coupe, I ultimately ended up with this and haven't looked back.
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Also all c5s are not the same, a 6 speed with 3:45 gears is quiker than an auto with 2:73 gears or whatever they are. And 01 up c5s are quiker than pre 01 c5s. Zo6 intake, better tune, stronger torque tubes just to name a few.
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No, it won't. Sam beat the driver, not the car. Put Sam in a C5Z and game over for ANY F-body.
This was my evolution:
1999 Trans Am (heavily modified - springs, welded and cross-braced sub-frame, panhard bar, control arms, Bilstein shocks, Strut-tower brace, and cammed to over 380rwhp)
http://www.angelfire.com/on2/Vinnie/myta2.html
Trans Am Couldn't hold a candle to my bone stock 2003 Z06 in braking, handling or acceleration...
My 2006 Z51 Coupe was actually a small step down in performance over the 2003 Z06, but had some really phenomenal creature comforts (satellite radio, navigation, heated seats, power everything, et. al.)
So missing the rawness of the 2003 Z06 but not wanting to sacrifice the creature comforts of the 2006 Coupe, I ultimately ended up with this and haven't looked back.
This was my evolution:
1999 Trans Am (heavily modified - springs, welded and cross-braced sub-frame, panhard bar, control arms, Bilstein shocks, Strut-tower brace, and cammed to over 380rwhp)
http://www.angelfire.com/on2/Vinnie/myta2.html
Trans Am Couldn't hold a candle to my bone stock 2003 Z06 in braking, handling or acceleration...
My 2006 Z51 Coupe was actually a small step down in performance over the 2003 Z06, but had some really phenomenal creature comforts (satellite radio, navigation, heated seats, power everything, et. al.)
So missing the rawness of the 2003 Z06 but not wanting to sacrifice the creature comforts of the 2006 Coupe, I ultimately ended up with this and haven't looked back.
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I guess you missed the part where he said he has owned a C6 Z06, and GS. And raced in numerous different Corvettes.
You, like many other, underestimate what a proper setup can get you.
This was my evolution:
1999 Trans Am (heavily modified - springs, welded and cross-braced sub-frame, panhard bar, control arms, Bilstein shocks, Strut-tower brace, and cammed to over 380rwhp)
Trans Am Couldn't hold a candle to my bone stock 2003 Z06 in braking, handling or acceleration...
1999 Trans Am (heavily modified - springs, welded and cross-braced sub-frame, panhard bar, control arms, Bilstein shocks, Strut-tower brace, and cammed to over 380rwhp)
Trans Am Couldn't hold a candle to my bone stock 2003 Z06 in braking, handling or acceleration...
Im talking Koni SAs/strano springs/strano swaybars/fays2 watts link and sticky (preferably 315's all around) tires.
Hum. Maybe. I haven't had a chance to compair other performance factors against the c5z. Only a roll race. I pulled in that as well. The c6 z51 comes with stiffer springs, track shocks, larger sway bars, larger than stock drilled rotors, power steering and oil coolers. And a different geared 6 speed than the base c6.
Hum. Maybe. I haven't had a chance to compair other performance factors against the c5z. Only a roll race. I pulled in that as well. The c6 z51 comes with stiffer springs, track shocks, larger sway bars, larger than stock drilled rotors, power steering and oil coolers. And a different geared 6 speed than the base c6.
Here's a couple things stated from GM referring to the 2005 c6 z51.
"The Z51 Performance Package brings Corvette Coupe performance very close to the same level as the widely admired Z06. The Z51 offers more aggressive dampers and springs, larger stabilizer bars, and larger, cross-drilled brake rotors for optimum track performance capability while still providing a well-controlled and comfortable ride. Extensive racetrack testing reveals that a C6 equipped with the Z51 suspension almost equals the lap time of a C5 Z06 – marking a major advance in the overall performance of a Corvette Coupe by nearly approximating the extreme performance capabilities of the vaunted Z06 at a remarkable value."
"The optional Z51 Performance Package is a competition-ready system for the true performance enthusiast. It offers more aggressive dampers and springs, larger stabilizer bars, Goodyear Supercar tires with an asymmetrical tread pattern, and larger, cross-drilled brake rotors for outstanding handling performance that is still comfortable for daily driving. Beyond the suspension bits, the Z51 is a total system that takes the “regular” C6 to near-exotic levels of performance. It features gear ratios borrowed from the previous Corvette Z06 for maximum acceleration performance, and includes coolers added for the transmission and power steering systems for aggressive, track-oriented use. The result is a car that very nearly equals the Z06 in track performance – representing a tremendous value."
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Yes, it would.
I guess you missed the part where he said he has owned a C6 Z06, and GS. And raced in numerous different Corvettes.
You, like many other, underestimate what a proper setup can get you.
Ofcourse it couldn't, bilstiens/prokit isn't nearly enough to make it hang - mediocre setup at best.
Im talking Koni SAs/strano springs/strano swaybars/fays2 watts link and sticky (preferably 315's all around) tires.
I guess you missed the part where he said he has owned a C6 Z06, and GS. And raced in numerous different Corvettes.
You, like many other, underestimate what a proper setup can get you.
Ofcourse it couldn't, bilstiens/prokit isn't nearly enough to make it hang - mediocre setup at best.
Im talking Koni SAs/strano springs/strano swaybars/fays2 watts link and sticky (preferably 315's all around) tires.
You underestimate what a proper setup can get you in a Corvette compared to an F-body.
Hum. Maybe. I haven't had a chance to compair other performance factors against the c5z. Only a roll race. I pulled in that as well. The c6 z51 comes with stiffer springs, track shocks, larger sway bars, larger than stock drilled rotors, power steering and oil coolers. And a different geared 6 speed than the base c6.
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Sam has driven modded (SS class) C5 Z06's to winning times, and his camaro (fstock class) would put down similar times - both cars have very close mods.
As I demonstrated from personal experience, even a heavily modified Trans Am that I owned (granted, I didn't put the Corvette equivalent of Phadt coil overs and sway bars on it) couldn't touch my stock C5Z.
And now you also bring the added dimension of R compound tires, which don't come stock on any F-body or C5 (they do on C6 as optional now). I've seen V6 Camaros with sticky tires outperform Corvettes at the AutoX.
Im talking in their respective SCCA class, this allows for r-compound tires. Both cars would be wearing them.
That doesn't make the F-body superior. Just means he had better traction and knew how to keep it planted.
