Help....G1 or X1???
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Originally Posted by 2 SLOW
I was always wondering if your car was tuned. 15 rwhp from a cam never sounded like a good investment.
G5X-3 [114 lsa] .... Seems we have two opinions regarding the drivability of this cam. What is acceptable to one is not to another.. I am about to upgrade from my Comp 224/.580 on 112.. Made 395/405.. Cary says he makes 395 w. oem heads with his G5X-3 [114 lsa] cam..
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Originally Posted by No Juice
Dean-o, I'm looking at that cam as well. Why did you choose that over the MTI X1?
Can you post your graph? It sounds like it has some good mid range torque gains?
Can you post your graph? It sounds like it has some good mid range torque gains?
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Originally Posted by No Juice
Dean-o, I'm looking at that cam as well. Why did you choose that over the MTI X1?
Can you post your graph? It sounds like it has some good mid range torque gains?
Can you post your graph? It sounds like it has some good mid range torque gains?
cam specs:
G1 - 228/232 .588/.575 113 lsa
X1 - 230/227 .591/.571 112 lsa
When I had my headers installed Jayson at MTI was telling me about the G1, which wasn't available at the time. It is a interesting grind because it has different lobe profiles on intake and exhaust because the intake has less duration and more lift than the exhaust which has more duration and less lift. Which means the intake will open quick and further and the exhaust will open less but longer, which is good for cylinder scavenging. So with the LS6 heads being so efficient from the factory, I decided to go with the G1 which is biast towards the exhaust. So there you go. That was how I based my decision. I gained 32 peak rwhp and up to 35 rwhp at 6500 rpms! That is without any wideband tuning on the dyno.
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Originally Posted by 2 SLOW
Oh, I thought the norm for Z06's with a good set of headers (like LG's), tuning and all the bolt ons was around 390-400 rwhp?
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The ones I recall were mostly LG longtubes and all the basic bolt on's without any LSX items. Few were over 400rwhp.
But your number are really nice, I wouldn't be suprised to see you up over 430+ with tuning, no cats, ported TB.
But your number are really nice, I wouldn't be suprised to see you up over 430+ with tuning, no cats, ported TB.
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Originally Posted by 2 SLOW
Oh, I thought the norm for Z06's with a good set of headers (like LG's), tuning and all the bolt ons was around 390-400 rwhp?
Dean-o, those are great numbers and if I get that same Hp with my X1 I will be very, very happy. Nice ride!
Oh, by the way, did they have to drill your throttle body to make the car idle?
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2 slow, there are not many(if any) ZO6s with 400rwhp or more with bolt ons only. I know some that have come close and there may be a few out there, but to suggest that is normal or average, it is not. Now that I think about it, I do remember one guy. He had absolutely every conceivable bolt on imagineable and he was at 401rwhp. It would have significantly cheaper had he just bought headers and a cam. He was determined to get over 400 with stock internals and he did....at a fairly significant cost....and IMO less reliability due to the myriad of non-stock parts under the hood.
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Originally Posted by Z06-Dave
I have full bolt ons, headers, exhaust. high flow cats, vararam and tune, I have 379HP. 390-400 is pretty high for bolt ons some have done it, but not many.
Dean-o, those are great numbers and if I get that same Hp with my X1 I will be very, very happy. Nice ride!
Oh, by the way, did they have to drill your throttle body to make the car idle?
Dean-o, those are great numbers and if I get that same Hp with my X1 I will be very, very happy. Nice ride!
Oh, by the way, did they have to drill your throttle body to make the car idle?
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Originally Posted by Z06-Dave
I've ruled hat cam out, its too big for the stock heads, if I was planning on heads in the future I'd get it, but I refuse to put a cage in my car so there is no need to go that big or get heads. I already run mid 11's I just want the cam to make it easier.
And in answering your original post, the G5X3(114) seems to be a pretty streetable cam and produces pretty big power. When Lou came out with that cam, he did the bobble head test. He put a bobble head on the center console and you could see how the car idled by how much the bobble head moved. BTW, the G5X3 at 112 would require fly cutting the pistons....not the 114(I'm no expert but that is what Lou said...and I reckon he is).
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Originally Posted by FLYNLO
Is anybody else puzzled by this post. It appears your car is near stock and you run mid 11s regularly?....with no cage? At want point do you need a cage(I thought NHRA rule was under 12 seconds)? And what is the fear of running a little faster? Do you think that will put you into the 10s or something and THEN need a cage? Sorry for the question but that post came off a little confusing to me.
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Originally Posted by FLYNLO
Good luck in your quest, Dave. I am sure that cam will do just fine while offering some decent driveability. I guess I was out of the loop on the new ruling re: cage.
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It does also note that tracks do not have to go by the new rules, they can use their own discression, but I hope they all will use the new rules.
Good luck next season! Who knows, I might get the G5X3 and some heads next winter...
Dave