Corvette Performance
C5 | Z06 | C6 | ZR1 | C7

procharger or heads and cam?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 12, 2005 | 02:15 AM
  #1  
michael402z06's Avatar
Thread Starter
Banned
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 221
Likes: 0
From: Oak Harbor, WA
Default procharger or heads and cam?

i have an 02 Z06. I can't decide if i want to throw a procharger on it or if i want to get the heads ported, custom cam, vararam, kooks long tubes, catback, and clutch. I know about how much the horsepower will be with the procharger, but what kind of hp am i looking at if i do heads, cam, and exhaust. I would like to get at least high 400's at the wheels without the procharger, but is it possible without the supercharger. I only have enough money for one or the other.
Reply
Old May 12, 2005 | 07:25 AM
  #2  
Z06-Dave's Avatar
Launching!
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 252
Likes: 0
From: PA
Default

If you want big HP/Torque numbers do the supercharger.
If you want to low ET's get a H/C package, as you'll never be able to get the SC power to the ground as easily. Also with the H/C, there is no need to worry about belts slipping, failing or coming off.
Everyone will have a different opinion on this though....
Reply
Old May 12, 2005 | 07:32 AM
  #3  
smithsc's Avatar
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 54
Likes: 0
From: Kansas City, KS
Default

Michael,

I think it is possible to reach high 400's rwhp, approaching 500 without a power procharger/magnacharger.

I'm sitting at 451rwhp (see mods in sig), without the heads ever being off the motor. I think probably with a set of reworked/new heads (AFR205's or 225's), shaved pistons (for valve clearance), I should certainly be north of 475rwhp, and then thinking about a bigger set of injectors, bigger intake and throttle body, should be bumping 500.

BY the time you have done all that you probably have spend more dollars than a quick procharger or magnacharger install.

In my case, at an idle, you can certainly tell there is one big a$$ cam under the hood, whereas the procharger and magnacharger are more stealthy at an idle (other than the magnacharger requiring a raised hood), and probably a little more daily driver friendly.

My $0.02 worth anyway.

Steve
Reply
Old May 12, 2005 | 11:18 AM
  #4  
PA Z06's Avatar
12 Second Club
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,201
Likes: 0
From: Philadelphia
Default

Procharger man, its the way to go if you have the money, good luck
Reply
Old May 12, 2005 | 12:20 PM
  #5  
jaredwayt's Avatar
Launching!
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 224
Likes: 0
Default

you can eaisly obtain 500 rwhp with a h/c setup, yet probally wouldn't be as streetable as a blower setup.my suggestion would be to get the basic boltons, put in a mild bolwer cam that will help alot considering the flow of your ls6 heads, and run a ATI procharger around 10psi, and your looking at well over 500rwhp, and a very streetable car.
Reply
Old May 13, 2005 | 01:14 AM
  #6  
StealthZ06's Avatar
TECH Resident
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 875
Likes: 0
Default

Another vote for the Procharger.
Reply
Old May 13, 2005 | 09:33 AM
  #7  
BadMonkey's Avatar
TECH Veteran
20 Year Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 4,335
Likes: 0
From: Louisville, KY
Default

If you are looking into this I would have to say go supercharged. LS1tech has a new sponser that has been on the Corvette Forum for a long time A&A Corvette. Andy has a procharger kit that is completely insane. I have had both a H/C C5 which had a 3200 stall and my current setup with a ATI Procharger. The heads and cam will get you some high HP numbers btu streetability starts to go down hill at some point. The setup that Andy sells has been modified. More or less the only part about it that is ATI is the blower its self. It has single front mounted intercooler, an updated bracket with which you no longer have belt slip issues, and a kit to pin the crank. Those were the most common problems with teh kit and most have been fixed by Andy's. Most guys with this kit hit over 500RWHP. I am currently at 488RWHP with a crappy tune and stock manifolds and stock well everything minus my clutch. Once I get my tune down better I should be around 510-520 RWHP. Drivability is like stock until you start creating positive pressure in the intake or teh boost starts to build. Then it will throw you a little Most Z06's hit over 540-550 RWHP with just the kit and headers. The H/C car I had was mean and even with the torque from the convertor it still felt nothing like my F/I car does now. And streetability is nice. And I still get close to 30 MPG on teh highway If you are just alittle curious about going F/I just troll over to the www.corvetteforum.com and look in the F/I section of the C5 part. Just read and search a bit. You wil save money on a H./C and get better track times. But I have no intentions of going to the track to race anymore. I will go once my tune is done. And jsut a thought, I have 20,000 miles on my blower setup with completely stock top and bottom end. The only updates I did when I installed my car are in my sig. Oh and I am at 8-10 lbs of boost as well.

Damon
Reply
Old May 13, 2005 | 04:34 PM
  #8  
JSTAN's Avatar
Staging Lane
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 94
Likes: 0
From: Millis, MA
Default

Go with the procharger, the car will drive like stock until you put the petal to the floor...and then hold on.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

6 Gifts Neither Your Dad Nor Grad Will Shove Into the 'Trinket Drawer'

 Brett Foote
story-1

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-6

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-8

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-9

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
Old May 13, 2005 | 11:31 PM
  #9  
mdhmi's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
20 Year Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,119
Likes: 1
From: Detroit, MI
Default

H/C isn't going to be fun for long IMO. Just not enough power.

The ProCharger will have some real potential, especially if you pulley it down.

Mark
Reply
Old May 14, 2005 | 12:09 AM
  #10  
michael402z06's Avatar
Thread Starter
Banned
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 221
Likes: 0
From: Oak Harbor, WA
Default

ok, i think i am going to go with the procharger. my only question is that can i run the D1SC on a stock engine and still be safe or do i need to run the P1SC head??? because eventually down the road i am going to put a forged 383 short block in and put some AFR heads in. but that is at least a year until i am going to be able to get that done.
Reply
Old May 14, 2005 | 07:50 AM
  #11  
BadMonkey's Avatar
TECH Veteran
20 Year Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 4,335
Likes: 0
From: Louisville, KY
Default

Alot of guys are running stock bottom ends with D1SC's. Just need to get it tuned right is all.
Reply
Old May 15, 2005 | 09:56 AM
  #12  
michael402z06's Avatar
Thread Starter
Banned
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 221
Likes: 0
From: Oak Harbor, WA
Default

i think i am going to go ahead and put the d1sc in. how hard and how long does it take to install one? how much am i looking at if i had it professionally done?
Reply
Old May 16, 2005 | 03:49 PM
  #13  
30th t/a's Avatar
TECH Junkie
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (51)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 3,172
Likes: 26
From: Butler, PA
Default

if your staying with the stock shortblock go with a 450rwhp H/C setup. now if your talking a very mild H/C setup, id just get the procharger.
Reply
Old May 16, 2005 | 05:42 PM
  #14  
maddboost's Avatar
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 4,331
Likes: 3
From: Elmhurst, IL
Default

I would recommend a supercharger specifically the A&A kit. We have installed a lot of their kits and have had some good results the last two we did were on automatics one made 495 rwhp on a stock 02 automatic with a catback. The other made 479 with a stock exhaust and 2800 stall converter. Im sure with your Z06 you would have no problem going over 500 rwhp. And regardless if you can make close to that power with a H/C setup, a 500 rwhp blower car will be alot more street friendly then even a 450 rwhp H/C car.
Reply
Old May 17, 2005 | 05:30 AM
  #15  
Slowhawk's Avatar
LS1Tech Sponsor
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 14,865
Likes: 6
From: Bridgewater,Ma
Default

If you like the Big Block lope then a big H/C.If you like stealth then the blower.

I still get 30MPG on my setup and who say's you can't ET a blower setup
Reply
Old May 31, 2005 | 12:43 AM
  #16  
HouseWS6's Avatar
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
From: 1320'
Default

Maddboost you have mail..
Reply
Old May 31, 2005 | 06:06 PM
  #17  
ChevyChad's Avatar
8 sec potential, 12 sec slip
iTrader: (50)
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 4,092
Likes: 2
From: Savannah, GA
Default

If I had the money, I'd get the ProCharger no question!
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2005 | 04:16 PM
  #18  
CarsRFun's Avatar
12 Second Club
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 216
Likes: 0
Default

I have the option.. and am going H/C just something about being all motor and that sweet lope.
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2005 | 09:41 AM
  #19  
2MuchRiceMakesMeSick's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 6,157
Likes: 1
From: Texas
Default

Go with the SC or even consider getting turbo (or two )
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2005 | 12:12 PM
  #20  
Z06 Steve's Avatar
Launching!
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 268
Likes: 0
From: Albany,N.Y.
Default

call Andy at A&A corvette for the s/c kit info.Then get a good clutch as the stocker will be smoke in no time.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:36 AM.

story-0
6 Gifts Neither Your Dad Nor Grad Will Shove Into the 'Trinket Drawer'

Don't get dad new socks or a grill brush this year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 14:55:56


VIEW MORE
story-1
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 11:05:11


VIEW MORE
story-2
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-3
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-4
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-6
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-9
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE