Need Opinions PLEASE...
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Need Opinions PLEASE... I have a 99 Twin Turbo SS and want to know if getting a C5 would be worth selling the car. What points do you guys like best. Especially you guys who once owned an F-body. <img src="graemlins/gr_chug.gif" border="0" alt="[chug]" />
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Re: Need Opinions PLEASE... Well, first off, you have a heavy pig car right now thats nose heavy.
I have an SS thats done up with adjustible coil overs (autoX spring rates), bilstein shocks, lca's, phr, sfc's, stb, and any other 3 letter acronyms you can think of. When I was first looking for a C5, I figured it wouldnt handle as well as my SS (which did pretty good in autoX IMO)...however, when I finally bought the C5 and pushed it hard the difference was astounding.
If you go into a hard high speed corner in your car, its probably gonna get tail happy. If you go into a hard high speed corner in a C5 and all 4 wheels seem to break traction at the same time. Its brilliant.
So, things you'll gain:
- Lighter weight car
- Great handling, much more balanced
- window motors that dont suck
- interior of a bit higher quality
- dual exhaust setup
Options I love:
- HUD
- Active handling
If you just want a fast street car for some street racing and track use, I'd just keep what you have. If you want a daily driver that is super fun to drive in corners, get the C5.
I have an SS thats done up with adjustible coil overs (autoX spring rates), bilstein shocks, lca's, phr, sfc's, stb, and any other 3 letter acronyms you can think of. When I was first looking for a C5, I figured it wouldnt handle as well as my SS (which did pretty good in autoX IMO)...however, when I finally bought the C5 and pushed it hard the difference was astounding.
If you go into a hard high speed corner in your car, its probably gonna get tail happy. If you go into a hard high speed corner in a C5 and all 4 wheels seem to break traction at the same time. Its brilliant.
So, things you'll gain:
- Lighter weight car
- Great handling, much more balanced
- window motors that dont suck
- interior of a bit higher quality
- dual exhaust setup
Options I love:
- HUD
- Active handling
If you just want a fast street car for some street racing and track use, I'd just keep what you have. If you want a daily driver that is super fun to drive in corners, get the C5.
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Re: Need Opinions PLEASE... I just want to point out that even though the window motors seem to work better, these is a problem with the regulator cables getting stuck. I already had one replaced under warrenty. A $360 part.
Once they start making a growling noise when going up or down they're on the way out.
Eric
Once they start making a growling noise when going up or down they're on the way out.
Eric
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Re: Need Opinions PLEASE... I've had four F-bodies and loved everyone of them ,3 z28's and 1 WS6 all great performers, some may now even say better for strait line performers. But once you have owned the flag ship you wont look at the F cars as even a comparison anymore. I'm on my third c5 and will not even consider anything but it again , unless possibly a c6. The quallity alone will sell you on the car not to mention the looks. <img src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" border="0" alt="[hail]" /> <img src="graemlins/z06.gif" border="0" alt="[Z06 Corvette]" /> <img src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" border="0" alt="[hail]" /> <img src="graemlins/corvette.gif" border="0" alt="[Corvette]" />
[ February 25, 2002: Message edited by: Dwayne98c5 ]</p>
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Re: Need Opinions PLEASE... Drive a C5 and you'll see a big difference. Good luck with your choice. <img src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
<img src="graemlins/z06.gif" border="0" alt="[Z06 Corvette]" />
<img src="graemlins/z06.gif" border="0" alt="[Z06 Corvette]" />
Re: Need Opinions PLEASE... Had a 98 Z with all the bolt ons and a 99 T/A with heads/cam/convertor. Now I have a MY02/Z06 and you can't get the grin off my face. In a straight line at a track my T/A was probably faster but its no comparison. This car is so much fun to drive. Go test drive a C5. not to mention there is some sweet deals to be had now on new or used vettes. I will never put down the Fbody cars. I had a blast in mine but once you get in the vette you will love it. <img src="graemlins/z06.gif" border="0" alt="[Z06 Corvette]" />
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Re: Need Opinions PLEASE... I traded my low 12's 2000 SS for my 02 Z06. I loved the SS, but all I can say is WOW about the Z06.
Now if your thing is drag racing. Then its hard to beat a A4 F-Body stripper bang for buck.
But, if a all around car is what you are after then the C5 is simply great.
I have no regrets moving to the Z06. Corning is just plain awesume!!
Take Care,
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Now if your thing is drag racing. Then its hard to beat a A4 F-Body stripper bang for buck.
But, if a all around car is what you are after then the C5 is simply great.
I have no regrets moving to the Z06. Corning is just plain awesume!!
Take Care,
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Re: Need Opinions PLEASE... As a former highly modded f-body owner too I would agree that a C5 is worlds more refined than the f-body. My fully aftermarket suspension does not perform as well as my lowered Z51 suspension of the C5. <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[Burnout]" />
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Re: Need Opinions PLEASE... Jeremy, You also had a twin turbo F-Body. How did you feel about the loss in the twins going to the C5. I think that is what i would miss alot. The lingenfelter would be awsome but for $20-42k. <img src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" border="0" alt="[judgement]" />
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Re: Need Opinions PLEASE... [quote]Jeremy, You also had a twin turbo F-Body. How did you feel about the loss in the twins going to the C5. I think that is what i would miss alot. The lingenfelter would be awsome but for $20-42k. <hr></blockquote>
Stright line acceleration my C5 doesn't compare in its current trim. Had I put the 422 in it that would have been another story. Personally I would keep your SS until it's paid off then get a used C5. Your SS is very unique, I would never get rid of it.
Stright line acceleration my C5 doesn't compare in its current trim. Had I put the 422 in it that would have been another story. Personally I would keep your SS until it's paid off then get a used C5. Your SS is very unique, I would never get rid of it.
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Re: Need Opinions PLEASE... Thanks for all your input, all of you!
The only other issue i have is that i would be paying $150 less a month on a used C5 (after my down payment. I did take a C5 out (99 hard top M6) and i definatley pushed it <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> . The car is almost too lite, it would slide on hard turns and on un smooth surfaces it was hard to keep it on the ground <img src="gr_eek2.gif" border="0"> How do the C5 handle under lets say 450rwhp? Does it just slide around or actually give G's moving forward?
I agree the SS is a Large Pig! My car weighs 3800lbs without me and with NO fuel. This sounds kind of weird but i would miss the reclining seats as much as the Twin Turbos <img src="graemlins/gr_chug.gif" border="0" alt="[chug]" />
Is there any chance for a Targa Z06?
To those of you who really modded up your suspension on an F-Body, compared to the C5 (not Z06)is there just a difference in handling or is it still a Major difference even fully setup on an F-Body?
Thanks, you guys are great <img src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
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The only other issue i have is that i would be paying $150 less a month on a used C5 (after my down payment. I did take a C5 out (99 hard top M6) and i definatley pushed it <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> . The car is almost too lite, it would slide on hard turns and on un smooth surfaces it was hard to keep it on the ground <img src="gr_eek2.gif" border="0"> How do the C5 handle under lets say 450rwhp? Does it just slide around or actually give G's moving forward?
I agree the SS is a Large Pig! My car weighs 3800lbs without me and with NO fuel. This sounds kind of weird but i would miss the reclining seats as much as the Twin Turbos <img src="graemlins/gr_chug.gif" border="0" alt="[chug]" />
Is there any chance for a Targa Z06?
To those of you who really modded up your suspension on an F-Body, compared to the C5 (not Z06)is there just a difference in handling or is it still a Major difference even fully setup on an F-Body?
Thanks, you guys are great <img src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
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Re: Need Opinions PLEASE... I've own several F-Body's,which I currently sold my 30TH that ran 11.13 with a 382 Stroker.I found a used 01Z06 Yellow Vette with 6K miles on her.I really love this car <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> The only time i was dissapointed was going to the drag strip last weekend,and not driving a 6speed in 2 years.LOL running many low 13's to managing a 12.71@110.56 1.98 60' in a 25PMH head wind.I left happy after that <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> I haven't had alot of seat time in the car,with being in chicago,but everytime I drive it I get a smile everytime <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
The only time I look back about my purchase, will be at the Drag Strip <img src="gr_sad.gif" border="0">
But It's not always about that,plus I plan to run a 427 stroker is this vette by the end of the year <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> Hopefully beating down the 30TH's Times <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
Good Luck <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
The only time I look back about my purchase, will be at the Drag Strip <img src="gr_sad.gif" border="0">
But It's not always about that,plus I plan to run a 427 stroker is this vette by the end of the year <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> Hopefully beating down the 30TH's Times <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
Good Luck <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
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Re: Need Opinions PLEASE... I hear alot of you guys giving great info on the Z06. I love the removable top though so the Z06 is not and option (yet <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> ).
I took my SS through the same course i took my friends 99 hardtop vette. It held well even though i bottomed out on the Crapy Incon exhuast pipe. It is still about i would say 20% of a less handling car than the Vette. However, spooling those turbos of the corners from about 4k rpm is great.
Is the Vette with the removable roof still a full framed car like the hardtop?
I took my SS through the same course i took my friends 99 hardtop vette. It held well even though i bottomed out on the Crapy Incon exhuast pipe. It is still about i would say 20% of a less handling car than the Vette. However, spooling those turbos of the corners from about 4k rpm is great.
Is the Vette with the removable roof still a full framed car like the hardtop?
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Re: Need Opinions PLEASE... All C5's are full frame cars.
Coupe: has the hoop between the targa and the rear window that attaches to the frame.
Convertable: doesnt have the hoop, but has a cross brace in between the top's boot and the trunk.
Hardtop: has both the hoop and the crossbrace.
Eric
Coupe: has the hoop between the targa and the rear window that attaches to the frame.
Convertable: doesnt have the hoop, but has a cross brace in between the top's boot and the trunk.
Hardtop: has both the hoop and the crossbrace.
Eric
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Re: Need Opinions PLEASE... [quote]Originally posted by G ForceSS:
<strong>To those of you who really modded up your suspension on an F-Body, compared to the C5 (not Z06)is there just a difference in handling or is it still a Major difference even fully setup on an F-Body?
</strong><hr></blockquote>
[quote]Originally posted by jmX:
<strong>I have an SS thats done up with adjustible coil overs (autoX spring rates), bilstein shocks, lca's, phr, sfc's, stb, and any other 3 letter acronyms you can think of. When I was first looking for a C5, I figured it wouldnt handle as well as my SS (which did pretty good in autoX IMO)...however, when I finally bought the C5 and pushed it hard the difference was astounding.
</strong><hr></blockquote>
<strong>To those of you who really modded up your suspension on an F-Body, compared to the C5 (not Z06)is there just a difference in handling or is it still a Major difference even fully setup on an F-Body?
</strong><hr></blockquote>
[quote]Originally posted by jmX:
<strong>I have an SS thats done up with adjustible coil overs (autoX spring rates), bilstein shocks, lca's, phr, sfc's, stb, and any other 3 letter acronyms you can think of. When I was first looking for a C5, I figured it wouldnt handle as well as my SS (which did pretty good in autoX IMO)...however, when I finally bought the C5 and pushed it hard the difference was astounding.
</strong><hr></blockquote>
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Re: Need Opinions PLEASE... jmx, <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> i was trying to get an idea of how close i could get an F-body to handle compared to a non Z06 vette. I was actually waiting to see if you would reply...but not like that <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> <img src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" border="0" alt="[jester]" />
I get the point though.
I get the point though.
Re: Need Opinions PLEASE... [quote]Originally posted by BradWS6:
<strong> I plan to run a 427 stroker is this vette by the end of the year <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> Hopefully beating down the 30TH's Times <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
Good Luck <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> </strong><hr></blockquote>
Brad....you da Man.
<img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
<strong> I plan to run a 427 stroker is this vette by the end of the year <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> Hopefully beating down the 30TH's Times <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
Good Luck <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> </strong><hr></blockquote>
Brad....you da Man.
<img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">