New Vette or new Cobra.
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New Vette or new Cobra. I have a 2000 SS and am really wanting to up date I am having a delma between a new Vette or the Cobra. I talked to a SVT dealer yesterday and he just got back from a week at SVT where he told me the new $3470 Cobra will outrun a new Vette. He said they had a few of each at the track and on the road course the Cobra was doing way better than expected and had no failures where the Vettes had 2 overheat.
I have always wnted a new Vette andwas waitig for the right time and it is now but now I am considering the Cobra. The guy told me SVT has them underated just a tad. Thy wont release the numbers but the Cobra trapped over 112 mph and they use a very conservative launch.
How do the new 02 vettes run as compared the 2000 model. I drove a 2000 and a 1999 and neither was as fast as my 2000 SS.
I have always wnted a new Vette andwas waitig for the right time and it is now but now I am considering the Cobra. The guy told me SVT has them underated just a tad. Thy wont release the numbers but the Cobra trapped over 112 mph and they use a very conservative launch.
How do the new 02 vettes run as compared the 2000 model. I drove a 2000 and a 1999 and neither was as fast as my 2000 SS.
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Re: New Vette or new Cobra. </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by DG Gordon:
<strong>I talked to a SVT dealer yesterday and he just got back from a week at SVT where he told me the new $3470 Cobra will outrun a new Vette...They wont release the numbers but the Cobra trapped over 112 mph and they use a very conservative launch.
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" />
New ZO6 will trap 114 with the right driver. New ZO6 will stomp that blown Cobra stock for stock.
Let me see if I can make my opinion clear...
<img border="0" alt="[Z06 Corvette]" title="" src="graemlins/z06.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Corvette]" title="" src="graemlins/corvette.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Z06 Corvette]" title="" src="graemlins/z06.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Corvette]" title="" src="graemlins/corvette.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Z06 Corvette]" title="" src="graemlins/z06.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Corvette]" title="" src="graemlins/corvette.gif" />
That should do it... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
<strong>I talked to a SVT dealer yesterday and he just got back from a week at SVT where he told me the new $3470 Cobra will outrun a new Vette...They wont release the numbers but the Cobra trapped over 112 mph and they use a very conservative launch.
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" />
New ZO6 will trap 114 with the right driver. New ZO6 will stomp that blown Cobra stock for stock.
Let me see if I can make my opinion clear...
<img border="0" alt="[Z06 Corvette]" title="" src="graemlins/z06.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Corvette]" title="" src="graemlins/corvette.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Z06 Corvette]" title="" src="graemlins/z06.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Corvette]" title="" src="graemlins/corvette.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Z06 Corvette]" title="" src="graemlins/z06.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Corvette]" title="" src="graemlins/corvette.gif" />
That should do it... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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Re: New Vette or new Cobra. First of all I traped in my bone stock 99 hard top vette 111.5 not to mention that last week we took my brothers 02 zo6 to the track hear opening day in Michigan and it went with 540 miles on it and a 2.17 60 ft a 12.31 @ 116 mph bone bone stock. So theirs you comparison in performance, Second of all a Corvette is a completely different breed than a mustang cobra or any loaded up f-body any vette owner will tell you that, its just amatter if you want to pay the price difference. Even if this new cobra will beat a standard vette id still take the vette. because deep down inside the cobra is still a cheaply built mustang no matter how fast you make them go!
<img border="0" alt="[Z06 Corvette]" title="" src="graemlins/z06.gif" />
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Re: New Vette or new Cobra. I have driven an 02 ZO6 and no doubt it is a nice car but for 34750 vrs. 50000 = 15250. I will agree that a Vette is way bad and I would still want one someday but for the price. They said the Cobra handles about as well as a regular Vette.
Keep the coments comming I need persuading.
Keep the coments comming I need persuading.
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Re: New Vette or new Cobra. remember one thing. you get what you pay for. i know one thing for sure, i've had a mustang and i've had corvettes, and the mustang's resale drops like a rock as soon as you sign the papers. if nothing else, buy a year old vette and save a few thousand.
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Re: New Vette or new Cobra. I drove the cobra and the corvette and think the vette is better in many respects, active handling, heads up display, just for starters. I wound up buying a 99 that was a year and a half old, loaded, with 16k on the odometer for $33.9. take a good look at some of both that are a year or two old. you can find some good deals that way. also, I don't think people that buy vettes rag them as much as people who buy mustangs. If I had it to do over again, I buy the vette in a heartbeat.
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Re: New Vette or new Cobra. You should be able to get into a 2000 6 speed coupe for around $32-33k and then get yourself a LPE Magna-charger for $5700 more and you'll have fun stompin those new Cobras. I don't care who says it, BUT, a iron block 4.6 with a 30+ lb. supercharger isn't going to outhandle a stock ZO6 on a road course! It's not even going to be close! Those ZO6s' are @.99-1g stock and Motor Trend went over 70mph in their slalom test. You know whats even funnier, the Cobra is putting out 8psi and making around 420hp and the LPE kit with 5.5psi puts out 500hp. It kinda makes that choice easier. Later
Re: New Vette or new Cobra. Every Cobra SVT car that has ever come out was supposed to outperform the Corvette, and to date there have been how many that have actually put up the numbers to do so?
I guess if you believe what the ford salesman tells you, then you should buy the cobra. Good luck.
I guess if you believe what the ford salesman tells you, then you should buy the cobra. Good luck.
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Re: New Vette or new Cobra. I had to read it just make sur ethis was for real. Is there really a question? <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" /> When the 99 SVT came out they said the F-bod was no competition, rough quote "with the addition of the IRS the Cobra is now in direct compettion with the Corvette, and is no longer competeing with F-Body." Blown or not, it's still a Ford. Z06, all the way!! <img border="0" alt="[Z06 Corvette]" title="" src="graemlins/z06.gif" />
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Re: New Vette or new Cobra. Maaan guys, give it a rest already. He was asking about the CORVETTE not the ZO6 (at least that is what I got from his post). So all your ZO6 comment are NOT needed (that is why the ZO6 costs quite a bit more) and yes we all know the ZO6 will spank the Cobra in just about everything but that is NOT what he asked.
The Cobra will beat the vette in a straight line accelaration IF it comes out as promised. Its the cornering that is compromised due to it heavy nose, but technology can overcome a lot.
BTW the Cobra was NOT intended to compete with the vette (even though the sales people will like you to believe). The old chassis (even though that is a testament of how well Ford can make do with an old chassis like the Fairlane) is not up to par to compete with the Vette. Afterall, the F-bod does not handle any better than the stoneage Fairlane chassis (oh, the Cobra R with that also handles with the ZO6).
Please don't let close mindedness blind you. All you have is the Ford product for now at least, unless you spring for 10g more for the vette. I am not saying the stang is better, but for the money it is the best we have (for now). And please lets not hear the vette is better in the corners, leave that to the ricers
The Cobra will beat the vette in a straight line accelaration IF it comes out as promised. Its the cornering that is compromised due to it heavy nose, but technology can overcome a lot.
BTW the Cobra was NOT intended to compete with the vette (even though the sales people will like you to believe). The old chassis (even though that is a testament of how well Ford can make do with an old chassis like the Fairlane) is not up to par to compete with the Vette. Afterall, the F-bod does not handle any better than the stoneage Fairlane chassis (oh, the Cobra R with that also handles with the ZO6).
Please don't let close mindedness blind you. All you have is the Ford product for now at least, unless you spring for 10g more for the vette. I am not saying the stang is better, but for the money it is the best we have (for now). And please lets not hear the vette is better in the corners, leave that to the ricers
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Re: New Vette or new Cobra. Corvette or Z06, which ever one he is talking about he needs to go with the Vette. Considering he was comparing the cobras price with the price of a Z06, seems like he is talking about a Z06, either way go with the vette. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Z06 Corvette]" title="" src="graemlins/z06.gif" />
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Re: New Vette or new Cobra. </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by KPONTI:
<strong>Maaan guys, give it a rest already. He was asking about the CORVETTE not the ZO6 (at least that is what I got from his post). So all your ZO6 comment are NOT needed (that is why the ZO6 costs quite a bit more) </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I disagree. He was comparing to the price of a ZO6, so I think my comments (and others) were warranted.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by KPONTI:
<strong>Afterall, the F-bod does not handle any better than the stoneage Fairlane chassis. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" />
<strong>Maaan guys, give it a rest already. He was asking about the CORVETTE not the ZO6 (at least that is what I got from his post). So all your ZO6 comment are NOT needed (that is why the ZO6 costs quite a bit more) </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I disagree. He was comparing to the price of a ZO6, so I think my comments (and others) were warranted.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by KPONTI:
<strong>Afterall, the F-bod does not handle any better than the stoneage Fairlane chassis. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" />
Re: New Vette or new Cobra. You've got to look at what you want.
Sure, the ZO6 can take a Ferrari but who do you think is going to exit the turns faster?
Same thing with the Ford, sure, it may be faster down the straight line but are you considering the chassis, the suspension, brakes, transmission, interior and just the overall quality of the the work?
If you ask me the Corvettes are LESS expensive. You pay all this money for the Ford that can beat the Vette on the straight line but they forgot about everything else. They put all their eggs into one basket (speed) if you ask me and just masked up the other areas that needed a make over. Where you have the Corvette that is ALL around an awesome car and just AS fast for the same price, so it seems your getting the same speed, better tranny, suspension etc for the same price.
If you want the speed then get the Vette, it's not even supercharged and it can match the Ford. Imgaine what it will do with a few bucks. With the Ford your going to be lacking in other areas aside from speed. It isn't like this is a entire new Mustang from the blue prints up, it's just a souped up verison of the exsisting Mustang, there was some work done to it but unless it can match the Corvette in EVERY way then it's not worth the title of "corvette killer"
Sure, the ZO6 can take a Ferrari but who do you think is going to exit the turns faster?
Same thing with the Ford, sure, it may be faster down the straight line but are you considering the chassis, the suspension, brakes, transmission, interior and just the overall quality of the the work?
If you ask me the Corvettes are LESS expensive. You pay all this money for the Ford that can beat the Vette on the straight line but they forgot about everything else. They put all their eggs into one basket (speed) if you ask me and just masked up the other areas that needed a make over. Where you have the Corvette that is ALL around an awesome car and just AS fast for the same price, so it seems your getting the same speed, better tranny, suspension etc for the same price.
If you want the speed then get the Vette, it's not even supercharged and it can match the Ford. Imgaine what it will do with a few bucks. With the Ford your going to be lacking in other areas aside from speed. It isn't like this is a entire new Mustang from the blue prints up, it's just a souped up verison of the exsisting Mustang, there was some work done to it but unless it can match the Corvette in EVERY way then it's not worth the title of "corvette killer"
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Re: New Vette or new Cobra. I dont think I can shell out the 50k for a ZO6 but maybe 43k for a regular Vette. One more question, are the 2002s making more power than a 2000 or earlier? I have driven several Vettes aswell as the 2002 ZO6 and I do like them but I will never be on a road course or taking twistys too much. But I do like to punch it an take on an occasional race. I am leaning to the Vette but I still like the Cobras, I had a 97 Cobra that I liked very much. Thanks for all the input guys.
Re: New Vette or new Cobra. As far as I was told the 2002 stock Vettes are putting out 385/385.
Another thing with the Mustang that "I" do no like so much, is it looks like an everyday car, when you sit in the them, the way they look from the outside and the way you feel while sitting in them. It's too "bland" for me, I want something that makes me feel I am in something fast, the Camaro does that for me, the Corvette just plain out makes me warm and fuzzy inside, I'll never have one but maybe I can drive yours for leaning you to the Vette. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
Another thing with the Mustang that "I" do no like so much, is it looks like an everyday car, when you sit in the them, the way they look from the outside and the way you feel while sitting in them. It's too "bland" for me, I want something that makes me feel I am in something fast, the Camaro does that for me, the Corvette just plain out makes me warm and fuzzy inside, I'll never have one but maybe I can drive yours for leaning you to the Vette. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
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Re: New Vette or new Cobra. When your cruising down the highway in your Vette and Cobra rolls up next to you and all you see is tailights just remember that its Brakes and Suspension arent as good as yours <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> Maybe that will make you feel better hehehe
The Cool thing about the Cobra is that it has Forced induction. Its going to be just like the Lightning. Chip, Filter, Pulley, Exhaust will add another 5-7mph to its trap speed. So now its probably running near 120mph, lets add 100 shot and some headers. The Cobra has a KILLER botom end as well.
Id still take a Vette though, There is just something about driving a Vette that kicks *** <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
The Cool thing about the Cobra is that it has Forced induction. Its going to be just like the Lightning. Chip, Filter, Pulley, Exhaust will add another 5-7mph to its trap speed. So now its probably running near 120mph, lets add 100 shot and some headers. The Cobra has a KILLER botom end as well.
Id still take a Vette though, There is just something about driving a Vette that kicks *** <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Re: New Vette or new Cobra. I'd like to see each car run from 80 mph, I'll judge after I see. Who cares if the Mustang can take the Corvette in the 1/4 mile, IF it can. Like I said before, I want the brakes, the suspension, the looks and everything else that a Vette comes with. You try to match the Mustang in overall performance with the Corvette and you'll be spending over 60,000.00
I want an entire car, I don't want just the quater mile. Sorry if you don't think the same but after running the straight line 10000 times I think I'd like to do a little road racing and be able to stop instead of having to hammer the brakes 3 miles before the turn. The suspension is another factor, I could go own but we all have heard the same thing.
What Ford did is just slap some power to the the Mustang and people call it a Vette killer, it isn't, what's so hard to understand. It's probaly as fast, maybe a LITTLE bit fater in the quater mile but what happens after that, what happens on the street, which one turns more heads, which one has a better interior? Must I go on?
I want an entire car, I don't want just the quater mile. Sorry if you don't think the same but after running the straight line 10000 times I think I'd like to do a little road racing and be able to stop instead of having to hammer the brakes 3 miles before the turn. The suspension is another factor, I could go own but we all have heard the same thing.
What Ford did is just slap some power to the the Mustang and people call it a Vette killer, it isn't, what's so hard to understand. It's probaly as fast, maybe a LITTLE bit fater in the quater mile but what happens after that, what happens on the street, which one turns more heads, which one has a better interior? Must I go on?