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Old May 22, 2005 | 05:05 PM
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Mines for sale, everything is done to it all you have to do is buy it!
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Old May 22, 2005 | 07:29 PM
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Mines for sale, everything is done to it all you have to do is buy it!

That's a sweet car dude. I always did like the look of HRE's.
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Old May 22, 2005 | 09:27 PM
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I own a 04 Z06 and a C6 with 6 speed and Z51. The two cars are completely different. The Z has more of a race car feel to it. The C6 is quiet and smooth, a little easier to drive hard than the Z IMO. The Z needs a good driver behind the wheel. The C6 is more forgiving. In a straight line the Z feels faster but the C6 isn't no slouch. I ran a 04 Cobra with the C6 from 60 to 110 and put an easy 3 carlengths on him. For a long trip the C6 is nicer, Nav kicks a$$. My preference goes to the Z06 though, the rawness of it is more my style.
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Old May 22, 2005 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by FairwayGreenVette
That's not true. The C6 laps the SAME EXACT TIMES Nurburgring as the C5 Z06.
Two different drivers. There was a Motor Trend article (used to be online, but can't find it now) that compared the two cars using the same driver (experienced race car driver). The C6 Z51 had less brake fade than the Z06, but, overall, there was a slight nod given to the Z06.
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Old May 22, 2005 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by FairwayGreenVette
That's not true. The C6 laps the SAME EXACT TIMES Nurburgring as the C5 Z06.


7:28 --- Porsche Carrera GT, Walther Röhrl, Autobild July 2004
7:32.4 -- Porsche Carrera GT, definitive time by Horst Von Saurma
7:32.5 - Gemballa Porsche GTR 600 EVO, Wolfgang Kaufmann (2001)
7:36 --- Porsche Carrera GT, factory test driver Walther Röhrl (2002)
7:40* -- Porsche Carrera GT, *estimated time on cold and partially wet track (2003)
7:40 --- Mercedes Benz McLaren SLR, Klaus Ludwig, Autobild July 2004
7:42 --- Radical 1500 SR3 (2002)
7:43 --- TechArt GT Street (2001)
7:43 --- Porsche 996 911 GT3 RS, factory test driver Walter Rohrl, MOTOR Magazine
7:43.5 - Lamborghini Murcielago (Autocar magazine, 2002)
7:44 --- Pagani Zonda C12S (07/2003)
7:45 --- Gemballa Porsche GTR 600 (12/2000)
7:46 --- Porsche 996 GT2
7:46 --- SHK Porsche 993 GT2, 652 PS (1999)
7:47 --- Porsche 996 GT3 RS, 381PS (996) (2004)
7:49 --- Porsche 996 GT3 Cup
7:50 --- BMW E46 M3 CSL (08/2003)
7:50 --- Blitz Supra, 750 PS, Herbert Schürg (1997)
7:50 --- Honda RC30, Helmut Daehne (1993)
7:50 --- Lamborghini Murcielago (06/2002)
7:52 --- Gemballa Porsche 911 Le Mans (1995)
7:52 --- Lamborghini Gallardo E-Gear (12/2003)
7:52 --- Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren (06/2004)
7:54 --- Porsche GT3 (996) (2003)
7:55 --- Caterham R500 Superlight (2002)
7:56 --- Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale (02/2004)
7:56 --- Porsche 996 Turbo
7:56 --- Honda NSX-R - Motoharu Kurosawa, Best MOTORing
7:56 --- Chevrolet Corvette CE Z06
7:56 --- Chevrolet Corvette C6 (tested by Dave Hill)


I own a C5 and have owned a C5 z06, and I'm telling him to get the C6. Have you even owned an LS1, let alone a C5? You should let the people who actually know what they are talking about speak in this thread, and try to learn as much as you can. Sorry to be so hard on you, but it upsets me when somebody tries to represent an opinion as a fact when they actually have no idea or experience. I feel I am qualified to speak on this subject after owning 2 C5's (including a C5 Z06), and driving a few C6's. The C6 does NOT feel any slower than the C5 Z06 in ANY way, shape, or form.
I've seen this list many times. Someone on CrossedFlags.com asked Dave Hill directly about the C6 lap time. It turns out the C6 time cannot be verified. The C5 Z06 time is correct, the C6 time is not:

http://www.z06vette.com/forums/showp...0&postcount=47

Dave Hill has said that a Z51 C6 is not the equal of a C5 Z06 in terms of performance. Perhaps more refined, maybe nicer, but so far the C6 has yet to match the C5 Z06s track performance, be it dragstrip or road course.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Qwik03
.(I would be awazed if you could get a C6 for 39K)
The dealership I know said they would let me order a 2006 GMO (option 1) I guess its called GMS now maybe? in september (3-4 months away)
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Old May 23, 2005 | 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by SSkeet
The dealership I know said they would let me order a 2006 GMO (option 1) I guess its called GMS now maybe? in september (3-4 months away)

Sorry bro, but the dealer has fed you a line. GMS is done with on the Corvette as of June 1st.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/sear...nt=1&forum_id=

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GM Admin. mess. # BAI20051277-01

Effective 06-01-05 the Corvette will no longer be part of the GMS program.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by FairwayGreenVette
Sorry bro, but the dealer has fed you a line. GMS is done with on the Corvette as of June 1st.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/sear...nt=1&forum_id=
Hmmm...well I am good friends with the owner of the dealership and he said he would do it now or in Sept...
I will have to ask about this...thanks for the heads up...
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Old May 25, 2005 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by reelmcoy
I own a 04 Z06 and a C6 with 6 speed and Z51. The two cars are completely different. The Z has more of a race car feel to it. The C6 is quiet and smooth, a little easier to drive hard than the Z IMO. The Z needs a good driver behind the wheel. The C6 is more forgiving. In a straight line the Z feels faster but the C6 isn't no slouch. I ran a 04 Cobra with the C6 from 60 to 110 and put an easy 3 carlengths on him. For a long trip the C6 is nicer, Nav kicks a$$. My preference goes to the Z06 though, the rawness of it is more my style.

dude, what do you do for a living? that is one PRETTY garage you have there!
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Old May 25, 2005 | 12:29 AM
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From looks I'd say z06
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Old May 25, 2005 | 01:01 AM
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C6!!!
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Old May 25, 2005 | 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by RealityCheck
I've seen this list many times. Someone on CrossedFlags.com asked Dave Hill directly about the C6 lap time. It turns out the C6 time cannot be verified. The C5 Z06 time is correct, the C6 time is not:

http://www.z06vette.com/forums/showp...0&postcount=47

Dave Hill has said that a Z51 C6 is not the equal of a C5 Z06 in terms of performance. Perhaps more refined, maybe nicer, but so far the C6 has yet to match the C5 Z06s track performance, be it dragstrip or road course.
I can say I owned a 99 C5Hardtop standard Z51 suspension and currently own an 03' ZO6. I loved the Z51, but there is no comparison over which handles better between those. I would think a non Z51 C6 with magnetic selective ride control would out handle the C5 Z51, but I don't have any data regarding that, because the track in Germany wasn't used in 99', but have seen 03' C5 data in Germany which set the record. If the C6 out handled the 03 C5 or the ZO6 that is news to me. I would think overall the Z would have the advantage on dry pavement because the Z is a 1g car and the C6 is not quite there.
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Old May 25, 2005 | 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by reelmcoy
I own a 04 Z06 and a C6 with 6 speed and Z51. The two cars are completely different. The Z has more of a race car feel to it. The C6 is quiet and smooth, a little easier to drive hard than the Z IMO. The Z needs a good driver behind the wheel. The C6 is more forgiving. In a straight line the Z feels faster but the C6 isn't no slouch. I ran a 04 Cobra with the C6 from 60 to 110 and put an easy 3 carlengths on him. For a long trip the C6 is nicer, Nav kicks a$$. My preference goes to the Z06 though, the rawness of it is more my style.
I ran a late model 911 carrara turbo S Monday from +100mph (third gear bottom at 6800rpm) shifted 4th @ 6800rpm and destroyed him by over 20 car lengths. I did make a 5th gear shift @ 150mph before I had to slow down for traffic. It was an asian kid looked about 28 years old not happy at all. I gave him a big smile and a nice wave lol!
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Old May 26, 2005 | 05:42 AM
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i dont understand why people continue to debater over these two vehicles. if you pick up this months (or may be last months) road and track magazine you will see what david hill said himself: " the c6 is not a replacement in any way of the c5 z06. they are both different animals and the replacement for the z will come later this year."
So why the hell do we have to continue with this? if you want to own gm's newest technology and a confortable ride then make no mistake and buy a c6, but if you want to own gm's fastest street car then buy a c5 z06. period..
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Old May 26, 2005 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by whitecamaross
i dont understand why people continue to debater over these two vehicles. if you pick up this months (or may be last months) road and track magazine you will see what david hill said himself: " the c6 is not a replacement in any way of the c5 z06. they are both different animals and the replacement for the z will come later this year."
So why the hell do we have to continue with this? if you want to own gm's newest technology and a confortable ride then make no mistake and buy a c6, but if you want to own gm's fastest street car then buy a c5 z06. period..
I was looking at an article in Chevy High Performance magazine that came out alittle while back when they drove the C6. The article did have some questions to Dave Hill and Dave Hill said that the C6 Z51 in terms of handling is about 75% of the current C5 Zo6 performance. Whatever 75% means, I'd say it was more of a general overall comparison.
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 06:02 PM
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FWIW, a freind of mine owns an '03 Z06 and a C6 coupe, and he swears the C6 is faster than his '03. I have never driven either of his cars, but he drives the hell outta both of them. So on that count I'll take him at his word.

Also, he says the only thing he's run into on the road he has a problem with is a Viper a guy he works with owns. Says he just can't beat that SOB. His name is on the list as soon as the new Z06 is available. He lives in Dallas and runs a lot between here and Austin/Houston.

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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 08:36 PM
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Wow, your friend swears on it! I am convinced now that my car is ****. All I can say is at the track last Friday a C6 Z51 6sp was doing 13.4's to my 12.7's on a 97deg day with track temps at 125 deg. We were both 100 percent stock. I do recall Nineball got similar results. Tuning or not the C6 will evolve and get better just like the others. Do I want one? No, I want a maggie to throw on there since the C6 did ot have any major improvements.
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 04:29 AM
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13.4 in the 1/4 sounds like a stock LS1.
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 08:04 PM
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Here's another testament of what the C6 is currently doing. I reread Nineball's experience and have to add that the C5 runs at high temps too. Mine was hitting 230deg at the end of the track. I would have it down to about 210deg at the starting line but not any better. This is with the stock tune in the Z06. You can do some tuning on them too to get more out of them. That said, in stock form the LS6 will out perform the LS2. Is the C6 a better car? I hope so. Every new version better have something better about it. It just isn't that big of a difference. Maybe in a year or two the C6 will really be special. https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...light=c6+times
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 10:26 PM
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2003 Z06 if you don't care about the warranty

C6 if you do care about the warranty, just my opinion
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