STI vs Z06
11-26-2005, 12:41 PM
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STI vs Z06 I got into an discussion with someone who said a stock WRX Sti would whip a stock z06 and I told him he was full of **** but I am curious how close would it be running completely stock vs a sti?
11-26-2005, 01:37 PM
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This probably belongs in the "street racing and kill stories section."
Stock versus stock - versus the old C5 Z06, from a dig the STi is ahead for about 3 seconds and then the Z06 blows by. Versus the new Z06, if the Z06 has traction, then it is all over from the start.
Stock versus stock - versus the old C5 Z06, from a dig the STi is ahead for about 3 seconds and then the Z06 blows by. Versus the new Z06, if the Z06 has traction, then it is all over from the start.
11-26-2005, 01:52 PM
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Not even close....
Stock STI's can run 13.0 at 103 mph off a perfect 0-30 mph of 1.3 tenths..
Your not gonna see many STI's get any were near a 60 ft of 1.3 seconds..
Typicaly there 1.7-1.9 0-60 ft and gonna run 13.4-13.9 at 100-103 mph..
Your Z06 dosent need the worlds quickest launch to be fast...
With a 2.0-2.1 you'll easily be in the 12.5-12.7 range at 112-115 mph...
Perfect for a Z06 is a 1.9 60 ft and a 12.4 at 116 mph...
A z06 will trapp a solid 12 mph higher than an STI...
On a dreamed up roll race it would be MURDER on the STI.....Were talking imaginary dreamed up bus lengths here man, stock for stock...
An STI is a good race for a coup/vert C5....
They both run 13.0-13.5...
The differance is that the C5 will run it's ET at 106-109 mph and will run the low to mid 13 off crappy 2.1-2.2 60 fts...
The STI will ONLY trapp 100-103 mph and DESPERATLY needs to have an impressive launch to match the C5 in ET...
Atleaste a 1.7 or below to match the C5's 2.1 60 ft...
On a dreamed up imaginary roll the C5 coup/vert would EASILY pull the sti...Again due to mph....
106-109 is greater than 100-103...
The only chance an STI would have on a dreamed up imaginary roll is against the 2.73 a4 C5....
The 2.73 automatic C5 trapps from 103-106
The STI trapps from 100-103
The a4 2.73 C5 should still win in an imaginary dreamed up roll race....But it wont be an easy dream up non real imaginary kill on that sanctioned closed down to the public open for racers who paid there fee and dues road...
Stock STI's can run 13.0 at 103 mph off a perfect 0-30 mph of 1.3 tenths..
Your not gonna see many STI's get any were near a 60 ft of 1.3 seconds..
Typicaly there 1.7-1.9 0-60 ft and gonna run 13.4-13.9 at 100-103 mph..
Your Z06 dosent need the worlds quickest launch to be fast...
With a 2.0-2.1 you'll easily be in the 12.5-12.7 range at 112-115 mph...
Perfect for a Z06 is a 1.9 60 ft and a 12.4 at 116 mph...
A z06 will trapp a solid 12 mph higher than an STI...
On a dreamed up roll race it would be MURDER on the STI.....Were talking imaginary dreamed up bus lengths here man, stock for stock...
An STI is a good race for a coup/vert C5....
They both run 13.0-13.5...
The differance is that the C5 will run it's ET at 106-109 mph and will run the low to mid 13 off crappy 2.1-2.2 60 fts...
The STI will ONLY trapp 100-103 mph and DESPERATLY needs to have an impressive launch to match the C5 in ET...
Atleaste a 1.7 or below to match the C5's 2.1 60 ft...
On a dreamed up imaginary roll the C5 coup/vert would EASILY pull the sti...Again due to mph....
106-109 is greater than 100-103...
The only chance an STI would have on a dreamed up imaginary roll is against the 2.73 a4 C5....
The 2.73 automatic C5 trapps from 103-106
The STI trapps from 100-103
The a4 2.73 C5 should still win in an imaginary dreamed up roll race....But it wont be an easy dream up non real imaginary kill on that sanctioned closed down to the public open for racers who paid there fee and dues road...
11-26-2005, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 2.73 Vette
Not even close....
Stock STI's can run 13.0 at 103 mph off a perfect 0-30 mph of 1.3 tenths..
Your not gonna see many STI's get any were near a 60 ft of 1.3 seconds..
Typicaly there 1.7-1.9 0-60 ft and gonna run 13.4-13.9 at 100-103 mph..
Your Z06 dosent need the worlds quickest launch to be fast...
With a 2.0-2.1 you'll easily be in the 12.5-12.7 range at 112-115 mph...
Perfect for a Z06 is a 1.9 60 ft and a 12.4 at 116 mph...
A z06 will trapp a solid 12 mph higher than an STI...
On a dreamed up roll race it would be MURDER on the STI.....Were talking imaginary dreamed up bus lengths here man, stock for stock...
An STI is a good race for a coup/vert C5....
They both run 13.0-13.5...
The differance is that the C5 will run it's ET at 106-109 mph and will run the low to mid 13 off crappy 2.1-2.2 60 fts...
The STI will ONLY trapp 100-103 mph and DESPERATLY needs to have an impressive launch to match the C5 in ET...
Atleaste a 1.7 or below to match the C5's 2.1 60 ft...
On a dreamed up imaginary roll the C5 coup/vert would EASILY pull the sti...Again due to mph....
106-109 is greater than 100-103...
The only chance an STI would have on a dreamed up imaginary roll is against the 2.73 a4 C5....
The 2.73 automatic C5 trapps from 103-106
The STI trapps from 100-103
The a4 2.73 C5 should still win in an imaginary dreamed up roll race....But it wont be an easy dream up non real imaginary kill on that sanctioned closed down to the public open for racers who paid there fee and dues road...
Stock STI's can run 13.0 at 103 mph off a perfect 0-30 mph of 1.3 tenths..
Your not gonna see many STI's get any were near a 60 ft of 1.3 seconds..
Typicaly there 1.7-1.9 0-60 ft and gonna run 13.4-13.9 at 100-103 mph..
Your Z06 dosent need the worlds quickest launch to be fast...
With a 2.0-2.1 you'll easily be in the 12.5-12.7 range at 112-115 mph...
Perfect for a Z06 is a 1.9 60 ft and a 12.4 at 116 mph...
A z06 will trapp a solid 12 mph higher than an STI...
On a dreamed up roll race it would be MURDER on the STI.....Were talking imaginary dreamed up bus lengths here man, stock for stock...
An STI is a good race for a coup/vert C5....
They both run 13.0-13.5...
The differance is that the C5 will run it's ET at 106-109 mph and will run the low to mid 13 off crappy 2.1-2.2 60 fts...
The STI will ONLY trapp 100-103 mph and DESPERATLY needs to have an impressive launch to match the C5 in ET...
Atleaste a 1.7 or below to match the C5's 2.1 60 ft...
On a dreamed up imaginary roll the C5 coup/vert would EASILY pull the sti...Again due to mph....
106-109 is greater than 100-103...
The only chance an STI would have on a dreamed up imaginary roll is against the 2.73 a4 C5....
The 2.73 automatic C5 trapps from 103-106
The STI trapps from 100-103
The a4 2.73 C5 should still win in an imaginary dreamed up roll race....But it wont be an easy dream up non real imaginary kill on that sanctioned closed down to the public open for racers who paid there fee and dues road...
Couldn't have said it better myself, Those cars are great for RALLY racing, but lack of torque
will always hamper them when it comes to racing AMERICAN V-8's
11-27-2005, 03:36 AM
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2.73 Vette said it perfectly, I have raced several from both a dig and a roll, at the track and on the street. I was told by several guys... "You may beat me, but I'll rip you out of the hole"... Well I can pull 2.0 60', not impressive but it gets the job done. On the track, I never had one pull more than a length and a half on me which I easily gained back by the 1/8 mile. And then the last 1/8 was a killing. I put alot of room on after that. On the street it was the same thing, they would get the jump then watch me walk away! And from a roll... it's not even worth mentioning, at any speen above 30 it gets real ugly for the STI. (these races were done stock or mostly stock, I haven't raced any since I added my headers)
Well I can pull 2.0 60', not impressive but it gets the job done. On the track, I never had one pull more than a length and a half on me which I easily gained back by the 1/8 mile. And then the last 1/8 was a killing. I put alot of room on after that. On the street it was the same thing, they would get the jump then watch me walk away! And from a roll... it's not even worth mentioning, at any speen above 30 it gets real ugly for the STI. (these races were done stock or mostly stock, I haven't raced any since I added my headers) 
11-27-2005, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Nautilus
2.73 Vette said it perfectly, I have raced several from both a dig and a roll, at the track and on the street. I was told by several guys... "You may beat me, but I'll rip you out of the hole"... Well I can pull 2.0 60', not impressive but it gets the job done. On the track, I never had one pull more than a length and a half on me which I easily gained back by the 1/8 mile. And then the last 1/8 was a killing. I put alot of room on after that. On the street it was the same thing, they would get the jump then watch me walk away! And from a roll... it's not even worth mentioning, at any speen above 30 it gets real ugly for the STI. (these races were done stock or mostly stock, I haven't raced any since I added my headers)
Well I can pull 2.0 60', not impressive but it gets the job done. On the track, I never had one pull more than a length and a half on me which I easily gained back by the 1/8 mile. And then the last 1/8 was a killing. I put alot of room on after that. On the street it was the same thing, they would get the jump then watch me walk away! And from a roll... it's not even worth mentioning, at any speen above 30 it gets real ugly for the STI. (these races were done stock or mostly stock, I haven't raced any since I added my headers)How do u like your QTP's??
Are they worth it??
Bc i am thinking of getting them for my soon to be Z06.
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11-27-2005, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt SS
How do u like your QTP's??
Are they worth it??
Bc i am thinking of getting them for my soon to be Z06.
Are they worth it??
Bc i am thinking of getting them for my soon to be Z06.
from me. And the best part is I decided to hold off on a catback so I left the stock Z06 one on and it sounds great, it's only a little bit louder than it was before the headers, but the tone is alot meaner 
I would spend the $$$ again in a heart beat
11-27-2005, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt SS
Thats great!!!!!
Are those good gains??
What I mean is, are the QTP's better than other headers as far as output??
Are those good gains??
What I mean is, are the QTP's better than other headers as far as output??
over which header is better The big debate is always LG vs. QTP vs. Kooks vs. Supermaxx and my gains are better than alot of people have seen, but about right for my setup. I've read every thread and post about this issue, and basically I would sum it up like this QTP,LG's & Kooks are all about the same (with LG's being a little more $$$$) so pick the company that you want and the supermaxx setup is a little lower quality, but a good option if $$$$ is short. I highly reccomend the QTP's and I would go with them again, but between the top three it comes down personal preference and who will give you the best deal on them. I bought my QTP's through Eastside performance and got a great deal, so shop around a little.
11-27-2005, 02:33 PM
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I don't have a z06 but he was ragging on all the ls1 and ls6 and I just couldn't let him talk trash. The funny thing is that he was all about the all wheel drive and how it is so much better. The funny thing is though he said he would get a GTO if he had the money go figure. Well I am a firebird guy and I just thought I would get yalls opiion on it all thanks
11-29-2005, 01:21 PM
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Nothing is more frustrating than talking to people that "know it all", but in fact know very little. I have heard time and time again that AWD makes cars so much better. Sure it would be nice to redline/dump the car at the start and have a hell of a launch, but in the end who wins? Who is ahead after the launch means very little. Who crosses the line at the end first means the everything! Those AWD guys have it stuck in their head that they are un-beatable. For street applications, AWD is a big advantage as they do usually pull out of the hole pretty quick with the 5k dump, but lose ground pretty quickly.
