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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 01:35 AM
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This will be my 1st nitrous setup. I'm installing it in my 99 C5-a4 stock. I'm planning on 100 to 150 dry shot, modifying my throttle body (75mm to 80mm),headers, cutouts, and power pulleys. Maybe a 2500 stall later. With the nitrous I planned on using a window switch,activation switch, and a bottle heater. Do the switches work together or cancel eachother out? I dont see the point in a purge system. I'm not going to the track every weekend just racing once in a while. If I'm forgetting anything I'd like to know.
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 19vette99
This will be my 1st nitrous setup. I'm installing it in my 99 C5-a4 stock. I'm planning on 100 to 150 dry shot, modifying my throttle body (75mm to 80mm),headers, cutouts, and power pulleys. Maybe a 2500 stall later. With the nitrous I planned on using a window switch,activation switch, and a bottle heater. Do the switches work together or cancel eachother out? I dont see the point in a purge system. I'm not going to the track every weekend just racing once in a while. If I'm forgetting anything I'd like to know.


Window switch...seperate...

activation switch....seperate...

bottle heater...seperate...

The purge is to in a way, charge the line or pressurize it with n20, so that you get a direct and quick hit, as soon as your window switch allows it to come on.

Thats all. Just take your time.

I'd recommend wet but, since your not looking for MORE power, you'd probably be alright.

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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by V-seriesTech
Window switch...seperate...

activation switch....seperate...

bottle heater...seperate...

The purge is to in a way, charge the line or pressurize it with n20, so that you get a direct and quick hit, as soon as your window switch allows it to come on.

Thats all. Just take your time.

I'd recommend wet but, since your not looking for MORE power, you'd probably be alright.

I want to know if the window & activaion switches work to gether or if I have to choose one or the other. I know I have to buy them seperate. As for purging the line I can do that with a burnout at 800psi it'll take less than a second. Using a dry shot I dont have to worry about blowing my intake. I know the odds are slim but the motor can survive a lean run over an intake explosion.
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 11:15 AM
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dont forget to change plugs..
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Assassin
dont forget to change plugs..


werd. without a doubt.
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 05:52 PM
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MSD makes a great digital window switch that you can make work with the TPS.

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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 02:32 PM
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i would not take the time to put a dry kit on if your going to do a window switch put a wet on the they make way more power i have had a wet kit on my car for over a year now with no window switch or an on switch it started out as a quick it so we could just take it off in a hurry and it still on there i have like a 120 shot and the timing backed down to i think 16-17 and have run lots or nitros through it with out any problems the 120 shot put over 150 to the tires and it safe as all can be on 93 a purge is good if you have the bottle to hot or you just put a new bottle in when ever you put a new bottle in and open it up and try and spray it there is a lag and then it will hit real hard and shock the tires and you will start spinning i just purge mine through the motor at 4000rpm and it also good if you get the bottle to hot you can let the pressure out of the bottle if it get to hot

hope this helps an anyway for you nitrous is fun you just have to spend the time to set it up safe
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 06:31 PM
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^^^I could barely make that out since it is just one huge run-on sentence.


I use a 150 wet shot on my Vette. It's bone stock with a VaraRam intake on it. I haven't changed the timing or anything. All I did was get TR-6 plugs and went to town. The Activation switch and window switch are completely separate. The window switch just controls where the nitrous starts and ends. The activation switch actually turns the system on.
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by kyle`s 02 vette
i would not take the time to put a dry kit on if your going to do a window switch put a wet on the they make way more power i have had a wet kit on my car for over a year now with no window switch or an on switch it started out as a quick it so we could just take it off in a hurry and it still on there i have like a 120 shot and the timing backed down to i think 16-17 and have run lots or nitros through it with out any problems the 120 shot put over 150 to the tires and it safe as all can be on 93 a purge is good if you have the bottle to hot or you just put a new bottle in when ever you put a new bottle in and open it up and try and spray it there is a lag and then it will hit real hard and shock the tires and you will start spinning i just purge mine through the motor at 4000rpm and it also good if you get the bottle to hot you can let the pressure out of the bottle if it get to hot

hope this helps an anyway for you nitrous is fun you just have to spend the time to set it up safe
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Kyle, bubba, we need to work on our sentence structure a little. Good input though after I read it two or three times.
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 19vette99
I want to know if the window & activaion switches work to gether or if I have to choose one or the other. I know I have to buy them seperate. As for purging the line I can do that with a burnout at 800psi it'll take less than a second. Using a dry shot I dont have to worry about blowing my intake. I know the odds are slim but the motor can survive a lean run over an intake explosion.

Not 100% sure, as I've only done a little bit of research on NOS, but I do believe that they're separate entities, but will work in conjunction w/each other to form a safer NOS application for your engine...someone correct me if that's incorrect.
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How will the colder plugs affect the performance when not using nitrous at the track?
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Old Feb 26, 2006 | 09:39 AM
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You need both a window switch And activation switch as these cars are fly by wire throttle. They work in series as the the activation switch senses full voltage to activate nitrous at only wide open throttle and the window switch senses the rpm's to be In The Window to insure safe operation. Get a TNT Wet kit as it produces more torque. Use the relay in the Activation switch as some people bypass this and it ends up frying their electronics.
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Old Feb 26, 2006 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by scrmnws6
How will the colder plugs affect the performance when not using nitrous at the track?
Go one step colder on the plugs otherwise you could overheat them. You won't notice any difference in performance running colder plugs. Add a little high octane unleaded race gas before a night of racing to insure no pinging when running the nitrous.
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Old Feb 26, 2006 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave00C5
Get a TNT Wet kit as it produces more torque.

Slight generalization, on my NX wet kit I gained 220ft/lb of torque on a 150 wet shot. So.....ya.
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Old Feb 26, 2006 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by HolyShiznit
Slight generalization, on my NX wet kit I gained 220ft/lb of torque on a 150 wet shot. So.....ya.
Not knocking NX which is good too but typically tnt makes more torque as the're underated.
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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 08:03 AM
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I'm thinking of the gas myself.
I'm confussed on one thing,if bottles and nozzles are equal for both NX and TNT,how can one brand make more torque than another,the gas coming out of the bottle doesn't know which kit it is in,gas is gas,must be a difference in nozzles or hose sizes i'm assuming.I'm also assuming this is pure "hear-say" with no documented proof by someone not working for the company.
I'm real concerned that the stock fuel pump won't react in time,or keep up for that matter,on a dry system that is.
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^^^ I think the "underrated" part is translated as "bigger jet". People have said that a TNT "150" shot is more like an NX "175" shot. IE the TNT kits simply spit out more gas. At least that's what I have read in the nitrous section.
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Originally Posted by Dave00C5
Not knocking NX which is good too but typically tnt makes more torque as the're underated.


You can make that torque with any kit,..it's all in the fuel jetting.
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Originally Posted by V-seriesTech
You can make that torque with any kit,..it's all in the fuel jetting.
I agree, it must be the stock nozzle on the tnt supplying more fuel.
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