New Z06, any feedback?
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Originally Posted by Marcus86GLHS
"...Also all the LS7 enignes are hand built and 30 engines come out of the factory a day..."
only application is the Z06 at this time right?
so theres about 600 Z06's being built per month?
supply has got to catch up w/ demand this year at that rate.....then let those deals fly.
.....now if they would only offer interiors other than black.......
only application is the Z06 at this time right?
so theres about 600 Z06's being built per month?
supply has got to catch up w/ demand this year at that rate.....then let those deals fly.
.....now if they would only offer interiors other than black.......
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Originally Posted by Marcus86GLHS
"...Also all the LS7 enignes are hand built and 30 engines come out of the factory a day..."
only application is the Z06 at this time right?
so theres about 600 Z06's being built per month?
supply has got to catch up w/ demand this year at that rate.....then let those deals fly.
.....now if they would only offer interiors other than black.......
only application is the Z06 at this time right?
so theres about 600 Z06's being built per month?
supply has got to catch up w/ demand this year at that rate.....then let those deals fly.
.....now if they would only offer interiors other than black.......
There is a lot of talk about the C6 Z being limited production and limited years.
The current rumor is 08 will be the last of the handbuilt engines and a new LS9 engine will be availble at that time. DOD will be a function and 7L maye history. The reason is the new EPA/PCM requirements and problems with the sleeved engine.
The current rumor is 08 will be the last of the handbuilt engines and a new LS9 engine will be availble at that time. DOD will be a function and 7L maye history. The reason is the new EPA/PCM requirements and problems with the sleeved engine.
Originally Posted by zo6vette037
Good fact about the new ZO6 that probably people dont know, is that the tenth digit in the vin is "Y" and that will only be on first 150 cars and after that the tenth digit will go to "E". So you will know if you get one of the collector edition ZO6 vettes. Also all the LS7 enignes are hand built and 30 engines come out of the factory a day.
You are mistaken try 15 LS7 engines per day..The Wixom Performance Build Center makes 30 engines per day but half of them are the Northstar supercharged Caddy motor for the STS-V and the XLR-V...that is why there is such a shortage..they will be lucky to build 3000 of the Z06's for North Amareica this year ... it might be a long time before this car is not premium priced..it is the hotest car on the planet and shows no sign of cooling off...non-carguy types with deep pockets are now finding out about it and want it too..it has been in every car magazine 2 or 3 times in the last 6 months..until GM does something about increasing engine production this car is going to be in short supply and high demand..they built 7000+ a year of the C5 Z06 you aren't going to see production numbers like that on the new car till GM fixes the bottleneck at engine production.. remember that 200 LS7's are bound for GMPP as crate engines and that there are going to some built for the Eurpoean market too...last Saturday we had a transport truck load of Vettes drop off 3 for us but the other 7 on the truck were Euro spec Z06 cars headed to port to be shipped to Europe....the law of supply and demand will set the price on anything from horse shoes to horse feathers to Z06's..good luck in finding one for under MSRP...I have seen the over list prices going up higher the longer the car has been available not going down..if you can buy one for MSRP your on a good deal...you will find that many dealers will tell you that they will sell you one for MSRP..but they can't produce the car..it is all about having the allocation..
Last edited by slt200mph; Mar 2, 2006 at 05:36 PM.
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Staging Lane
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From: Ellington, CT
"...GM knows they can sell the car for that price...."
maybe i have this wrong but isnt it the individual dealers that are jacking up prices? and, the premiums paid never reach GM, they line the dealer's pockets....correct?
not saying the C6 Z06 isnt worth MSRP, its just that the future resale value of used ones (which of course 100% of sold Z06's are just used cars) are based off the MSRP, so, purchasing one at less than MSRP is a smart move to limit your losses which of course are unavoidable on this car.
what ticks me off is not the net MSRP+premium price for a great car, it's the fact that the dealers are making more profit per car in that scenario than GM. scum bag dealers.
maybe i have this wrong but isnt it the individual dealers that are jacking up prices? and, the premiums paid never reach GM, they line the dealer's pockets....correct?
not saying the C6 Z06 isnt worth MSRP, its just that the future resale value of used ones (which of course 100% of sold Z06's are just used cars) are based off the MSRP, so, purchasing one at less than MSRP is a smart move to limit your losses which of course are unavoidable on this car.
what ticks me off is not the net MSRP+premium price for a great car, it's the fact that the dealers are making more profit per car in that scenario than GM. scum bag dealers.
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From: Honolulu-Hi
I can't remember the number,but there not going to make as many as the c5 zo6,also,over at www.Digitalcorvettes.com theres tons of street racing vids,the last one i saw was a stock c6 zo6 vs a new Gallardo Lambo,looks like they took off from about a 30 mph roll,they raced twice,Lambo jumped the z,z still pulled away...Now throw some longtubes and a n2o kit and.......death is near.. 
Originally Posted by Marcus86GLHS
"...GM knows they can sell the car for that price...."
maybe i have this wrong but isnt it the individual dealers that are jacking up prices? and, the premiums paid never reach GM, they line the dealer's pockets....correct?
not saying the C6 Z06 isnt worth MSRP, its just that the future resale value of used ones (which of course 100% of sold Z06's are just used cars) are based off the MSRP, so, purchasing one at less than MSRP is a smart move to limit your losses which of course are unavoidable on this car.
what ticks me off is not the net MSRP+premium price for a great car, it's the fact that the dealers are making more profit per car in that scenario than GM. scum bag dealers.
maybe i have this wrong but isnt it the individual dealers that are jacking up prices? and, the premiums paid never reach GM, they line the dealer's pockets....correct?
not saying the C6 Z06 isnt worth MSRP, its just that the future resale value of used ones (which of course 100% of sold Z06's are just used cars) are based off the MSRP, so, purchasing one at less than MSRP is a smart move to limit your losses which of course are unavoidable on this car.
what ticks me off is not the net MSRP+premium price for a great car, it's the fact that the dealers are making more profit per car in that scenario than GM. scum bag dealers.
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Staging Lane
Joined: May 2005
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From: Ellington, CT
true and that is a good point, dealers can do what they want with the price of any car they have in their inventory. its just that GM is not doing well at all, in fact they are doing horrible. seems a bit unfair for GM to front all the costs of this new car and the dealers making the big money for let's face it doing nearly nothing but paperwork when it comes to selling C6 Z06's.
oh well.......
oh well.......
Originally Posted by Marcus86GLHS
true and that is a good point, dealers can do what they want with the price of any car they have in their inventory. its just that GM is not doing well at all, in fact they are doing horrible. seems a bit unfair for GM to front all the costs of this new car and the dealers making the big money for let's face it doing nearly nothing but paperwork when it comes to selling C6 Z06's.
oh well.......
oh well.......
i guess that is a way to look at it.but i've been working for dealerships for 12 years now 5 yrs at a chevy dealer 7 yrs at an olds dealer.and i can tell you from experience,when gm does really bad we suffer with them.and when they are doing great we also are doing great.when they are suffering its because no one is going into the dealers to buy cars.take my first job for instance,olds wasnt selling well. so i'm watching the news one night and found out gm was closing the doors on olds.to take place in 2004, of course they gave us a 1 year warning but they did horrible marketing and strategy wise causing a lot of people to be out of work.had they kept em like the buicks we still would have had plenty of old die-hard olds fans.but they made a huge design change to be gm's secret weapon against the asian market, trying to sway theyre customers back to gm.with more sophisticated over-head cam engines and front wheel drive.but the older people who liked the oldsmobile surely didnt like the designs of the asian trend.we sell around 10-15 vettes a year but we wont get any Z06's that i know of.but my general manager says they have never sold a car above invoice to a customer.but they wont dealer trade a Z06 at dealer trade cost among other dealers.
Originally Posted by Marcus86GLHS
true and that is a good point, dealers can do what they want with the price of any car they have in their inventory. its just that GM is not doing well at all, in fact they are doing horrible. seems a bit unfair for GM to front all the costs of this new car and the dealers making the big money for let's face it doing nearly nothing but paperwork when it comes to selling C6 Z06's.
oh well.......
oh well.......
GM is making plenty of money on the Z06..and on the Corvette ccoup and convertible..it is the only car they make that has no incentive on it..it is all the other vehicles that they make that are not selling real well..the law of supply and demand is always in effect no mater what the product is..GM dealers are not making much money these days just like GM...I know that my boss has had more than a few months over the last couple of years where he lost 100K a month...I can't blame him for selling a car at the inflated market price while it is hot..