vararam CAI
so is the raptor cai just a big huge air filter thats similar to the halltech stinger ssm. or is it similar to a vararam with wider openings? where does a raptor gets its incoming air, from the fog light area or from uner the front bumper? if someome can describe what the raptor cai looks like it would be greatly appreciated
mythbusters is definately needed. im confused though. if the raptor is so much superior to the v-ram, then why is everyone still going for the v-ram for best performance over other intake systems?
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Originally Posted by c5_ls1_6spd
mythbusters is definately needed. im confused though. if the raptor is so much superior to the v-ram, then why is everyone still going for the v-ram for best performance over other intake systems?
I could put a 55 gallon trash can on the front of my MAF,the motors only going to pull the air it needs,it's not like a supercharger compressing air by spinning at 50,000 rpms.
Whatever the pleasant math comes out to be (thanks NosJohn) the VaraRam still works and works well, that's why people use it. Also it's proven itself at the track numerous times, the average is 3-4 mph gain. I wouldn't claim 40+ horsepower at all but it DOES help, even if it doesn't show up on the dyno. Kinda of like a stall converter.
I am no longer arguing the why or air velocity because I got owned last time.
I am no longer arguing the why or air velocity because I got owned last time.
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Originally Posted by HolyShiznit
Whatever the pleasant math comes out to be (thanks NosJohn) the VaraRam still works and works well, that's why people use it. Also it's proven itself at the track numerous times, the average is 3-4 mph gain. I wouldn't claim 40+ horsepower at all but it DOES help, even if it doesn't show up on the dyno. Kinda of like a stall converter.
I am no longer arguing the why or air velocity because I got owned last time.
I am no longer arguing the why or air velocity because I got owned last time.
You can see why i don't trust them,one minute,40 +hp,then all of a sudden it doesn't show up on the dyno...how did they come up with 40 then..It's not hard to make a wind tunnel or rent one,and back up there claim instead of letting the forums argue about it's ram effect.Good for sales i suppose.
If there system starts to work at 70 mph,then at 140 it must be making 80 hp.....i think this is the last v-ram post i'll read...they all go down the same path and end with the same results..
I also think all companies should call them "fresh air intakes",instead of "cold air intakes",it's never cold were i live...a 95* day is not my idea of a cold air intake..
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Originally Posted by H-5-L
No worries homie,i don't like to argue period,most intakes out there give the same results.Like my halltech (i don't work for them).
You can see why i don't trust them,one minute,40 +hp,then all of a sudden it doesn't show up on the dyno...how did they come up with 40 then..It's not hard to make a wind tunnel or rent one,and back up there claim instead of letting the forums argue about it's ram effect.Good for sales i suppose.
If there system starts to work at 70 mph,then at 140 it must be making 80 hp.....i think this is the last v-ram post i'll read...they all go down the same path and end with the same results..
You can see why i don't trust them,one minute,40 +hp,then all of a sudden it doesn't show up on the dyno...how did they come up with 40 then..It's not hard to make a wind tunnel or rent one,and back up there claim instead of letting the forums argue about it's ram effect.Good for sales i suppose.
If there system starts to work at 70 mph,then at 140 it must be making 80 hp.....i think this is the last v-ram post i'll read...they all go down the same path and end with the same results..
thats true. i didn't buy my v-ram for the 40hp increase claim. i bought it to see if it would increase my traps. and in fact it did increase it by 2-3 mph which should equate to about 20rwhp. 20rwhp is more accurate than the claimed 40rwhp.
Last edited by c5_ls1_6spd; Mar 4, 2006 at 11:25 PM.
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Originally Posted by c5_ls1_6spd
thats true. i buy my v-ram for the 40hp increase claim. i bought it to see if it would increase my traps. and in fact it did increase it by 2-3 mph which should equate to about 20rwhp. 20rwhp is more accurate than the claimed 40rwhp.
It all will come down to brand preference and in total just what you want. I highly doubt anyone ever buys one or the other based on what they read in our squabbles. Only reason you are reading the squabbles in the first place is mainly to put YOUR opinion in....but by having an opinion you arleady have a side to it.
So ya pretty much we all win? *group hug*
haha
So ya pretty much we all win? *group hug*
haha
Originally Posted by Gordy M
If you are in to drag racing, the Vararam would be the better system up to large cube engines, in road racing, the bottom feader systems would be better. The reasons for HP improvements are the lowering of the air incoming temperature. Under 330 mph there is little to no benefit of ram air. So the choice is easy, are you into drag racing or HPDE/road racing.
Originally Posted by zo6vetteman2003
Some people are running the Vararam as a bottom feeder setup.
Last edited by c5_ls1_6spd; Mar 5, 2006 at 09:03 AM.
Well, since he's becoming a sponsor, here is the preliminary product sub-page:
http://www.z06shop.com/raptorxxl.htm
http://www.z06shop.com/raptorxxl.htm