CamaroSS621

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I swear. light to light in a 03 SRT-4 only put down 440whp to the ground

01bird58

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I know a member by the name of Ranger has driven a STOCK 02 Zo6 to an 11.8X and another guy Jrod to a 11.7X. Not sure what the record is for a stock viper, but if speed/qtr. times are your concern, then logging time at the track should be more important to you than which of these two cars to choose. The bigger difference between them is looks, exclusivity, and how many heads you want to turn.

jkz06

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Those are the fastest times ever on C5Z06's and I know Ranger said he had over 450 runs in his two C5Z06's and this is the best. Moter Trend and others put the Z06 at 12.6 or 12.7 and the Gen 2 Vipers are at 12.1 or 12.2. I know everybody wants to think there stock Vette will hang with a Viper ,but it just shows the lack of education. I've raced a few Vipers when I was stock and even if I jumped then through first and second they always reel me in third and forth.

01bird58

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Lack of education? Not sure if your saying I dont know what im talking about but a stock vette is a stock vette. And if a stock C5 Zo6 has been run to 11.7/11.8's then anything less is from driver inexperience/error. If your asking what the AVERAGE time an AVERAGE driver will pull then I guess I can agree a viper is easier to pull good 1/4's from. And going by what magazine drivers pull shows your lack of education. Ask anyone one on here and they will say those guys dont know what their doing. If you wana go by some race that you had with a viper then fine, but until I see proof of a STOCK viper being run to an 11.7X or better a C5 Zo6 is faster in my book.

jkz06

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I see you're talking from experience huh. Is it your viper that you've raced a Z06 in or you're Z06 that you raced a Viper in? If the guys in the magazine don't know what they are doing they probably don't know in both cars don't you think? Until you have more experience than me keep your comments to yourself.
Post this discussion in a forum other than an GM forum and see what people say.

99corvette

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I could see a Stage 3 SRT-4 Running with a SRT-10/

01bird58

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[QUOTE:I see you're talking from experience huh. Is it your viper that you've raced a Z06 in or you're Z06 that you raced a Viper in? If the guys in the magazine don't know what they are doing they probably don't know in both cars don't you think? Until you have more experience than me keep your comments to yourself.
Post this discussion in a forum other than an GM forum and see what people say.QUOTE]

you got to be kidding, its useless arguing with you I have never driven a viper actually but I do believe the best way to measure how fast cars are is a 1/4 mile run, am I correct? If this is so a C5 has been driven to a lower 1/4 time than any viper that I know of. If there is a viper that has been run quicker BONE STOCK please show me b/c I wud be interested in this info. Im not trying to act like an *** here, simply show me proof of a faster stock viper. The thread starter asked which has put up better times and im showing proof. I guess you want me to go to a dodge forum so all the guys there can say how thier viper crushed a vette? That will mean nothing to me w/o a 1/4 run. Motor Trend also logged an 11.7 or something like that on the 06 Zo6, Ranger nailed an 11.2X, is Rangers time not supposed to count or something? Magazine drivers suck.

CamaroSS621

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just a stage 1 .... with a 50 trim lol

jkz06

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I don't even know where to start with all this. First of all Newbie? I've been on here longer than you. 2nd there's a 99 GTS that ran an 11.3 @122(If you don't believe me go to Viper Club of America). What does Rangers 11.2 time have to do with any of this and why wouldn't it count? Also he didn't just ask for 1/4 mile times he asked what was faster for 0-60,1/4 mile, 0-100,0-150 etc. I've seen lots of cars at the track beat faster cars because of the driver mod.

01bird58

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Well thank you, you finally gave us some facts! Too bad I had to beat them out of you. Up until your last post you were talking about highway runs with your brother. And youve been a member longer but it shows that was your 11th post. My point about Rangers 11.2 was to show that mag drivers suck. And all those 0-60, 0-100 are answered in the 1/4 time which tells all. So there, ill read up on that 11.2, and if thats true than im convinced a viper stock for stock is faster than a vette. *edit* I guess I shudnt say that mag drivers suck b/c they only have the car for 1 day as opposed to a sick driver like Ranger who owns it/knows it like the back of his hand *edit*

robz*

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On the 1/4 mile track with 2 experienced/ equal drivers the edge does go to the viper. But this is very driver dependent. some of the best viper drivers have run 11.5-11.7 bone stock.(record is 11.5x I believe) One advantage the viper has is on the launch. The huge rear stock tires of the viper make it easier to get a low 60' time and it definitely has more power. For anyone to actually run an 11 in bone stock condition in either car is a big accomplishment and would be hard to beat. More vette guys 1/4 mile their cars then do viper guys and that's why you see so many more good numbers put up by z06's. I would still race any stock viper in a stock Z and expect to win on the strip.

The 11.2 was not bone stock.BTW

Killemall

I have herd of the 11.5 run by a stock gen 2 Viper..also herd of the 11.7 by the stock C5z06

I know that Evan smith ran an 11.77 at 120 mph in a stock 01 rt10

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...05/ai_n9239712

I know that Steve burr ran an 11.97 at 118 mph in a stock C5Z06

http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...vette_feature/

So I suppose it's really close between the two....

But what are the 0-150 mph differances and so fourth. So far it seems like the C5Z06 is closer than lots of people think?????

Id love to run a bone stock C5Z06 in my Viper to see how close it really would be...Im in the Oahu hawaii area....

Guess from a 3rd gear 70 mph roll would be the best way to see wich car is really faster...

Id love to see these two old school Kings go at it....American muscle at it's finest. Would be fun

01bird58

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^It seems we're talking about two tenths of a second difference between these two cars 11.7x to 11.5x. And most of us will probably never be able to get anywere close to these record setting times. If you want whos faster to 150 I would guess the edge goes to the viper b/c of all the tq./hp. But like I mentioned before these cars are so close in times that shouldnt be the deciding factor in which one you buy, go more on looks/exclusivity. Plus who the hell is planning on keeping these things bone stock anyways??

02ZOh6

If anyone one here is going to know how they pair up at the track, it's this guy. 10.50's@130 in a NA 346 C5Z

Blown04Z06

personally what i would have done was upgraded the C5 to a 403, 408, 414, 418, 422 or a 427 and make 500+ whp for less money than it would have costed up front and in the long run when it comes to modding that viper for more power. just a thought...

Vipers have that AWWWWWE affect, i know i would buy one just because of the look and its a Viper. But my 403 will hand its *** to it all day long.

when i had the P1 on the Z i couldnt get a 550 venom viper with spray to run me???

David Gordon

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I saw an article that made the test you are asking although I cant remeber the exact year model of the Viper
It was made of a 02 ZO6 and a Viper probably 01 or 02
The Viper beat the Vette to 120 mph
The Vette pulled faster from 120 mph to 160 mph
From 160 mph the Viper pulled away again.

Pro Stock John

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Like Robz said, the edge goes to the Viper by 2-3 tenths assuming equal driving ability. I've seen decent Viper newbs run low 12's first time out.

99FRCTorchRed

the rear gears really hurt the viper