Question for you Vette Guys!!!
Yes, brake pads are specific to the Z06, they dust up so quick because of their race nature, and of course they are painted.
The Z06 seats are also specific to the Z06, they are not the standard seats.
As a previous owner of a '97 coupe before the Z, I can say that a coupe can not even come close in braking, acceleration, cornering, crowd gathering factor, resale and so much more. The only area imo that coupe was better was in the looks dept, yes I like the coupe, but will stick with the Z. Here's a couple pics comparing the two.
Robert
The Z06 seats are also specific to the Z06, they are not the standard seats.
As a previous owner of a '97 coupe before the Z, I can say that a coupe can not even come close in braking, acceleration, cornering, crowd gathering factor, resale and so much more. The only area imo that coupe was better was in the looks dept, yes I like the coupe, but will stick with the Z. Here's a couple pics comparing the two.
Robert
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As a past owner of a '98 coupe and now an '03Z06, I may as well throw my .02 worth into this thread as well...the Z06 was designed from the factory to be the lightest, fastest and best handling Vette to go from their showroom floors to the track. The thinner glass, carpet, seats, etc. were all designed to keep weight to a min. The tires are not runflats and are lighter... it has it's own upgraded suspension and other engine performance improvements different from the coupe.
If you plan to take it to the track...the Z06 will out perform the coupe. If you plan to take it to the strip, it won't matter what style you choose if you're gonna mod the hell out of it anyway.
Whether a coupe or a Z....it WILL put a smile on your face.
If you plan to take it to the track...the Z06 will out perform the coupe. If you plan to take it to the strip, it won't matter what style you choose if you're gonna mod the hell out of it anyway.
Whether a coupe or a Z....it WILL put a smile on your face.
Really, the Z06 is almost an entirely different car with C5 fenders. Some of the differences are a follows:
Transmission gearing (= a 3.90 in the coupe)
Windshield (Thinner)
Hard top
Suspension (Sway bar and shocks)
Heads
Cam
Wheels
Tires
Oil cooler
Brake pads
Overall weight
Clutch
Guages look different
Seats
Less sound deadening material
I used to have a couple and the Z06 is quite a bit more car. I love mine.
Transmission gearing (= a 3.90 in the coupe)
Windshield (Thinner)
Hard top
Suspension (Sway bar and shocks)
Heads
Cam
Wheels
Tires
Oil cooler
Brake pads
Overall weight
Clutch
Guages look different
Seats
Less sound deadening material
I used to have a couple and the Z06 is quite a bit more car. I love mine.
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Originally Posted by Fastbird93
I'm curious, what did they change in the rear? I thought the only driveline change made was the close ration MM12 tranny.
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Originally Posted by TheRooster
Really, the Z06 is almost an entirely different car with C5 fenders. Some of the differences are a follows:
Transmission gearing (= a 3.90 in the coupe)
Windshield (Thinner)
Hard top
Suspension (Sway bar and shocks)
Heads
Cam
Wheels
Tires
Oil cooler
Brake pads
Overall weight
Clutch
Guages look different
Seats
Less sound deadening material
I used to have a couple and the Z06 is quite a bit more car. I love mine.
Transmission gearing (= a 3.90 in the coupe)
Windshield (Thinner)
Hard top
Suspension (Sway bar and shocks)
Heads
Cam
Wheels
Tires
Oil cooler
Brake pads
Overall weight
Clutch
Guages look different
Seats
Less sound deadening material
I used to have a couple and the Z06 is quite a bit more car. I love mine.
Don't forget the bigger MAF and throttle body along with a better flowing Air Box.
Here is the effective gear ratios when comparing to a standard M6. This is one of the reasons the Z06 is so fast right out of the box.
1st = 3.82 gearing
2nd = 3.98
3rd = 3.76
4th = 3.42
The rear end IIRC, has a better/stronger clutch pack for the added torque/power of the Z06 over the standard vette.
and most important of all is the Z06 badging.
Robert
Here is the effective gear ratios when comparing to a standard M6. This is one of the reasons the Z06 is so fast right out of the box.
1st = 3.82 gearing
2nd = 3.98
3rd = 3.76
4th = 3.42
The rear end IIRC, has a better/stronger clutch pack for the added torque/power of the Z06 over the standard vette.
and most important of all is the Z06 badging.
Robert
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A Z06 runs $8K more than an FRC. For small motor mods, suspension, and weight that's a ripoff if you plan to mod. Take that $8K you save by buying an FRC and put that into a H/C package, big brake kit, and suspension mods and see what you have for the same price.
I picked up an FRC with a Z51 suspension and put all $8K and then some into the motor and never looked back. There isn't a Z that can hang and for the price at that.
So if you plan to mod, save your $$. If not, buy the Z.
I picked up an FRC with a Z51 suspension and put all $8K and then some into the motor and never looked back. There isn't a Z that can hang and for the price at that.
So if you plan to mod, save your $$. If not, buy the Z.
Originally Posted by SilveradoSS500
Thanks for the info, this is what I wanted to read. Well, I had a 400wrhp V and it was pimp, i even beat a bunch of Z06's but most likely because of driver error & power... Screw another V by the way. I have a daily driver and i just moved to DC so i wanted a toy. For money reasons, it does make since for me to get a none Z06 because of engine mod reasons but: Now that i know about the glass, carpet etc. it makes me want the Z06 even more. Im not sure yet on what im going to buy, i do have a month to decide... I plan on just racing this bitch, so i dont care THAT much about all the weight... I probley will stip a bunch of **** out of it!!!
Robert pretty much said it best, but if you don't want to pay extra for the Z, then get an FRC. They have the same basic geometry, are less then the Z, but are still holding their value better than the coupes. I doubt your going to care much about the targa top when you're tearing around the track anyway.
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From: SE, CT
Originally Posted by SilveradoSS500
So to get this straight, a FRC is a targo...
Originally Posted by 99FRC
Robert pretty much said it best, but if you don't want to pay extra for the Z, then get an FRC. They have the same basic geometry, are less then the Z, but are still holding their value better than the coupes. I doubt your going to care much about the targa top when you're tearing around the track anyway.
The Z has
a stronger drive shaft
M12 Tranny
higher compression ratio
different cam
different suspension
better block which deletes machined holes in the LS1 bulkhead and adds cast-in "windows" that allow better bay-to-bay breathing
better pistons which are cast from high-strength M142 aluminum alloy and reshaped with a slightly different profile than those in the LS1
stronger valve springs
better injectors which increase maximum fuel delivery from the LS1's 3.3 grams per second to 3.6 grams per seconds
better clutch
relocated PCV system into the engine's valley
2nd generation active handling
better intake
Don't feel like reading all of this.... figure out if you need a targa top first, then if you don't, figure out if you enjoy modding.
If you need targa get a coupe and mod it... if you enjoy modding and like the FRC, well then get one.
Otherwise get the Z.
A Z06 is simply a FRC modded from the factory
FYI the rear gears are shot peened for additional strength, hence the greater cost. The driveshaft is lighter, the MN12 gearbox is equivalent to 3.90's in a MN6.
The car has a lighter windshield, less sound insulation, and lighter carpet.
Suspension has different shocks, swaybars, and springs.
Car has a better clutch too... power wise it basically has a mild H/C, better intake, better exhaust.
If you need targa get a coupe and mod it... if you enjoy modding and like the FRC, well then get one.
Otherwise get the Z.
A Z06 is simply a FRC modded from the factory
FYI the rear gears are shot peened for additional strength, hence the greater cost. The driveshaft is lighter, the MN12 gearbox is equivalent to 3.90's in a MN6.
The car has a lighter windshield, less sound insulation, and lighter carpet.
Suspension has different shocks, swaybars, and springs.
Car has a better clutch too... power wise it basically has a mild H/C, better intake, better exhaust.
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The only negative I found when comparing the c5 zo6 to the FRC would be the difference in INSURANCE PREMIUMS. In my area a zo6 required an additional $1500 a year to insure. Yearly savings on insurance alone allowed me to afford all the upgrades I have. H/C/I etc,etc,etc
Originally Posted by Cobra4B
Don't feel like reading all of this.... figure out if you need a targa top first, then if you don't, figure out if you enjoy modding.
If you need targa get a coupe and mod it... if you enjoy modding and like the FRC, well then get one.
Otherwise get the Z.
A Z06 is simply a FRC modded from the factory
FYI the rear gears are shot peened for additional strength, hence the greater cost. The driveshaft is lighter, the MN12 gearbox is equivalent to 3.90's in a MN6.
The car has a lighter windshield, less sound insulation, and lighter carpet.
Suspension has different shocks, swaybars, and springs.
Car has a better clutch too... power wise it basically has a mild H/C, better intake, better exhaust.
If you need targa get a coupe and mod it... if you enjoy modding and like the FRC, well then get one.
Otherwise get the Z.
A Z06 is simply a FRC modded from the factory
FYI the rear gears are shot peened for additional strength, hence the greater cost. The driveshaft is lighter, the MN12 gearbox is equivalent to 3.90's in a MN6.
The car has a lighter windshield, less sound insulation, and lighter carpet.
Suspension has different shocks, swaybars, and springs.
Car has a better clutch too... power wise it basically has a mild H/C, better intake, better exhaust.