500 Hp N/a
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500 Hp N/a Hey guys i'm doing a build on an ls1 right now its in a 2001 'vette and i'm wondering what the best, cheapest, and most streetable way to get around 500 hp out a n/a ls1. All ideas are welcome, but no nitrous and i want to keep the cam somewhat tame. thanks for the help.
If your talking flywheel HP an agressive Cam and all bolt-ons, or a medium H/C w/all bolt ons will get you close. If your talking RWHP your gona need a ***** to the wall H/C set-up. Oh and HP and cheap dont really got together 
Take a look in the dyno section. People are doing great things with the LS2 402 cars N/A.
There's no real reason to try for 500 rwhp N/A street car with the LS1 block. That's just your newbieness asking the questions. It's okay.
But, anyways, I don't have a 500 rwhp LS1 N/A street car, and you should only take advice from those who do. That's why I say go to the dyno section and see what others are doing. Use the search function or post questions in their threads. Don't start another one of these newb threads there.
There's no real reason to try for 500 rwhp N/A street car with the LS1 block. That's just your newbieness asking the questions. It's okay.
But, anyways, I don't have a 500 rwhp LS1 N/A street car, and you should only take advice from those who do. That's why I say go to the dyno section and see what others are doing. Use the search function or post questions in their threads. Don't start another one of these newb threads there.
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big cubes, a fairly big cam(dont need a monster), and supporting mods.
-402/408 forged bottom end
-fast90 and 90 tb
-headers
-intake
-and a set of heads. i prefer some of the aftermarket ones insstead of gm castings ported. dart, afr, tea, etp etc.
-cam something in the range of 240ish 240ish 610ish. big but not a monster
-a good tune and not some time on a dyno making 4th gear pulls
-402/408 forged bottom end
-fast90 and 90 tb
-headers
-intake
-and a set of heads. i prefer some of the aftermarket ones insstead of gm castings ported. dart, afr, tea, etp etc.
-cam something in the range of 240ish 240ish 610ish. big but not a monster
-a good tune and not some time on a dyno making 4th gear pulls
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well its going to be a show car for the company i work for, corvette recycling, and i'm building it. i'm just looking at different options, and one was n/a but we also might go with a APS twin turbo system. If i wanted your opinion on whether i should or shouldn't i would have asked, but i didn't. I asked how, hopefully from someone with expirence. thanks for the input and i will check out the dyno boards.
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If you want to stay with stock cubes check out this thread on corvetteforum.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1624934
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1624934
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Dude i'm not a newbie i've been doing this since i was 12, you don't need to be a dick about it. I want to know how many motors you've rebuilt? I know my crap and don't tell me i don't. If it makes me a newbie for asking for constructive critisim then i guess i'm a newbie. I've worked on more corvettes than you even dream of in your wet dreams. So if anything your the newbie. 
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I think it would difficult for it to keep good street manners at 500 rwhp best route and ultimately cheaper would probably be a nice turbo setup because by the time you do all the exhaust, heads, cam, and every other bolt on you can imagine to hit the 500 mark you could have just bought a turbo system and be very well over 500 on stock setup. Just my opinion. A more realistic n/a street car would probably be in the 400 to 430 region.
I am way over 500RWHP on my stock ci ZO6, plus a comfortable torque that I run on pump gaz.
It will be between your selection of parts, the tuner in charge to understand your combo and the money you are ready to spend in the project.
white99frc, the link you posted has a bad tittle which lead to misinformation, LG did in 2004 535 rwhp 482 rwtq...
You will find a lot of info on my car for 511 RWHP, videos, dyno charts etc in the thread below:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/648228-video-idle-plus-streetability-wot-my-511rwhp-fti.html
Christian
It will be between your selection of parts, the tuner in charge to understand your combo and the money you are ready to spend in the project.
white99frc, the link you posted has a bad tittle which lead to misinformation, LG did in 2004 535 rwhp 482 rwtq...
You will find a lot of info on my car for 511 RWHP, videos, dyno charts etc in the thread below:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/648228-video-idle-plus-streetability-wot-my-511rwhp-fti.html
Christian
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Originally Posted by phoenix305
Dude i'm not a newbie i've been doing this since i was 12, you don't need to be a dick about it. I want to know how many motors you've rebuilt? I know my crap and don't tell me i don't. If it makes me a newbie for asking for constructive critisim then i guess i'm a newbie. I've worked on more corvettes than you even dream of in your wet dreams. So if anything your the newbie.
If you don't care about street manners, then just do a monster H/C, with all supporting mods, and you should be close.
Good luck nonetheless.
RT
Originally Posted by DocT
If you don't care about street manners, then just do a monster H/C, with all supporting mods, and you should be close.
Good luck nonetheless.
RT
I disagree with you on the street maner comment 100%...
Please take a look to the second video named streetability in the link I posted above, in case just go there:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL7h3QvOUFs
and that' to give an idea of my power if you can't read my post:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYhRh7XZ8Gw
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Originally Posted by miami993c297
Hi DocT,
I disagree with you on the street maner comment 100%...
Please take a look to the second video named streetability in the link I posted above, in case just go there:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL7h3QvOUFs
and that' to give an idea of my power if you can't read my post:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYhRh7XZ8Gw
Christian
I disagree with you on the street maner comment 100%...
Please take a look to the second video named streetability in the link I posted above, in case just go there:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL7h3QvOUFs
and that' to give an idea of my power if you can't read my post:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYhRh7XZ8Gw
Christian
Christian, thanks for the input. I've had a big cam in a LT1 vehicle, and really, it had a tremendous amount of surge etc, and to me, it was kind of a pita for traffic driving/in town driving, but I guess that is somewhat subjective. I admit though that I've never owned an LSX with a big cam, maybe they're different???
Last edited by DocT; Feb 19, 2007 at 09:06 PM.
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Originally Posted by miami993c297
Hi DocT,
I disagree with you on the street maner comment 100%...
Please take a look to the second video named streetability in the link I posted above, in case just go there:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL7h3QvOUFs
and that' to give an idea of my power if you can't read my post:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYhRh7XZ8Gw
Christian
I disagree with you on the street maner comment 100%...
Please take a look to the second video named streetability in the link I posted above, in case just go there:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL7h3QvOUFs
and that' to give an idea of my power if you can't read my post:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYhRh7XZ8Gw
Christian
Just had a chance to see the vids. Sounds awesome. You have quite a beast there no doubt, and has a very nice idle too! BTW, what is the red led on the lower right of your instrument panel?
RT
Originally Posted by DocT
Just had a chance to see the vids. Sounds awesome. You have quite a beast there no doubt, and has a very nice idle too! BTW, what is the red led on the lower right of your instrument panel?
RT
RT
I monitor my AFR through my LM-1 permanently installed and I use an output to link a AFR Gauge.
I don't feel comfortable to jump on the throttle at this level of power (100hp/liter NA) without knowing my AFR...
The main progress are pretty recent in term of drivability and it is really linked to the last tuning tools available those three last years.
Regards
Christian
Originally Posted by phoenix305
Dude i'm not a newbie i've been doing this since i was 12, you don't need to be a dick about it. I want to know how many motors you've rebuilt? I know my crap and don't tell me i don't. If it makes me a newbie for asking for constructive critisim then i guess i'm a newbie. I've worked on more corvettes than you even dream of in your wet dreams. So if anything your the newbie.
wow, too much yayo, it was a joke man, lol...
Last edited by Assassin; Feb 19, 2007 at 03:34 AM.
It is very easy to get 500 crank hp out of an LS1, but sort of hard to do it cheap with reliability.
I would do a Comp cam and valvetrain (918 springs and chromemoly rods) $1000.00 Reuse the GM stock rockers.
Kooks Long tube headers from Corvette Garage $839.95 http://www.corvettegarage.com/produc...-corvette.html
Patriot heads $1295.00
http://www.corvettegarage.com/produc...-corvette.html
Choose an aftermarket intake +/- $400.00
Total: $3534.95 + $500 Tuning
I would say anything near $4000 is pretty good.
This setup would make 450rwhp (530 crank hp)
To save money, reuse the LS1 heads, have them ported and milled.
I would do a Comp cam and valvetrain (918 springs and chromemoly rods) $1000.00 Reuse the GM stock rockers.
Kooks Long tube headers from Corvette Garage $839.95 http://www.corvettegarage.com/produc...-corvette.html
Patriot heads $1295.00
http://www.corvettegarage.com/produc...-corvette.html
Choose an aftermarket intake +/- $400.00
Total: $3534.95 + $500 Tuning
I would say anything near $4000 is pretty good.
This setup would make 450rwhp (530 crank hp)
To save money, reuse the LS1 heads, have them ported and milled.
Last edited by zo6vetteman2003; Feb 20, 2007 at 03:21 PM.