Time slip error?
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Time slip error? I was at the track today on my 02 M6 SS my last run was against a Trans Am A4.At the end it showed that the winner was the Trans Am but I looked at my time slip and it said I ran a 8.72 at 84.84 mph and the Trans Am was 8.95 at 80.92mph in the 1/8 track?Which would be right the time slip or the time boar at the end of the track?
Yeah, I'd say he probably tree'd ya... 2/10s looks like a TON down at the big end, but it shoots by pretty quick when you're sittin' in the hole...
Dude ran a 8.95 trapping <81 mph... he's clearly geared fairly low; meaning that where he hooks, he's putting some distance down PDQ.
There's a guy at our track running 2nd gen TA who lays down mid-7s trapping under 80... tells me he's light and geared WAY low. Im guessing 4.6x gears; and he rarely leaves over a .57X RT; meaning he's all about winning early... and with all things being equal; he usually does.
Check your slip and it's likely you'll find that ya lost that one back at the hole; despite being the faster car.
It happens... the thing is, is that is what makes Drag Racin' FUN man!
Anything can happen; and it usually does!
Dude ran a 8.95 trapping <81 mph... he's clearly geared fairly low; meaning that where he hooks, he's putting some distance down PDQ.
There's a guy at our track running 2nd gen TA who lays down mid-7s trapping under 80... tells me he's light and geared WAY low. Im guessing 4.6x gears; and he rarely leaves over a .57X RT; meaning he's all about winning early... and with all things being equal; he usually does.
Check your slip and it's likely you'll find that ya lost that one back at the hole; despite being the faster car.
It happens... the thing is, is that is what makes Drag Racin' FUN man!
Anything can happen; and it usually does!
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No offense, but he killed you off the line. His was a very good reaction time of .0263 while yours was a .4082. Add his reation time to his et. Then do the same for yours. Subtract his from yours and that's how much he beat you by as stated at the bottom of the slip. His slower car beat your faster car because he reacted faster at the start.
I just did and my is the lowest number.Here is my time slip I am number 33.Also Can you explane the reaction time which is better and what is bad?
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If you're staged up next to a guy that is slower than you; you have a little margin there... but ya can't sit in the hole for twice that margin and expect to beat him to the finish line.
We've all been there and there can be NO DOUBT that we'll be there again... that's just racin'... Some of it ya can't help... cold tires, cold track, poor prep... all of it can cause ya to gut the dig... but YOU have got to be moving when that light turns green... and never more so, when the guy next to you is cutting damn near perfect RTs...
Here's a tip... the average person takes 2/10s of a second from the time their brain decides to do something, to get their hand or foot, in this case, to do it.
So it looks to me like you were waiting on the green before you applied the throttle... Get over to the track on test and tune night and practice your starts by staging shallow and applying the throttle on the third yellow.
If you end up staging deep... you'll need to let the yellow age a little... but if you're staged shallow; meaning that you stopped right when the second light came on; then you should slam the hammer once you see that third yellow light up...
By the time your foot gets the word, the Green is lit and you'll be closer to what Dude came away with... and FTR: He got ONE HELLUVA START...
It'll take some practice; and you'll red-lite more than a few passes, but who cares? It's practice.
FYI: think of that Dudes .02 RT as a Home Run which landed in the 5th row of the left field parking lot... Dude was ON IT!
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No offense, but he killed you off the line. His was a very good reaction time of .0263 while yours was a .4082. Add his reation time to his et. Then do the same for yours. Subtract his from yours and that's how much he beat you by as stated at the bottom of the slip. His slower car beat your faster car because he reacted faster at the start.
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perfect RT would be .000
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Verdad Gallardo It occurs to me that your track may be using a different tree than that which I explained...
Pro-tree lights three yellows simultaneously, then the green... Our track only uses a pro-tree on request, and typically uses the Full-tree, which is described above.
You should be able to request which ever you prefer, by at the most, just indicating it on your window... "FT" -v- "PT"
In either case the RT begins on the third yellow and not the Green... not sure what it is that your track is using...
A Full-tree provides for a perfect .500 as there is a 1/2 second delay between the yellow and Green light. The pro-tree a .4 perfect start... clearly neither of those apply here, but such is not typical; at least in my experience.
Here's an article which goes into the anatomy of the Drag race start... its worth readin'.
http://www.staginglight.com/guide/react.html
Pro-tree lights three yellows simultaneously, then the green... Our track only uses a pro-tree on request, and typically uses the Full-tree, which is described above.
You should be able to request which ever you prefer, by at the most, just indicating it on your window... "FT" -v- "PT"
In either case the RT begins on the third yellow and not the Green... not sure what it is that your track is using...
A Full-tree provides for a perfect .500 as there is a 1/2 second delay between the yellow and Green light. The pro-tree a .4 perfect start... clearly neither of those apply here, but such is not typical; at least in my experience.
Here's an article which goes into the anatomy of the Drag race start... its worth readin'.
http://www.staginglight.com/guide/react.html
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It occurs to me that your track may be using a different tree than that which I explained...
Pro-tree lights three yellows simultaneously, then the green... Our track only uses a pro-tree on request, and typically uses the Full-tree, which is described above.
You should be able to request which ever you prefer, by at the most, just indicating it on your window... "FT" -v- "PT"
In either case the RT begins on the third yellow and not the Green... not sure what it is that your track is using...
A Full-tree provides for a perfect .500 as there is a 1/2 second delay between the yellow and Green light. The pro-tree a .4 perfect start... clearly neither of those apply here, but such is not typical; at least in my experience.
Here's an article which goes into the anatomy of the Drag race start... its worth readin'.
http://www.staginglight.com/guide/react.html
Pro-tree lights three yellows simultaneously, then the green... Our track only uses a pro-tree on request, and typically uses the Full-tree, which is described above.
You should be able to request which ever you prefer, by at the most, just indicating it on your window... "FT" -v- "PT"
In either case the RT begins on the third yellow and not the Green... not sure what it is that your track is using...
A Full-tree provides for a perfect .500 as there is a 1/2 second delay between the yellow and Green light. The pro-tree a .4 perfect start... clearly neither of those apply here, but such is not typical; at least in my experience.
Here's an article which goes into the anatomy of the Drag race start... its worth readin'.
http://www.staginglight.com/guide/react.html
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I get it know thanks for the help.What I still dont get is how he beat me my time and mph is quicker then him?I could see if my mph was faster then him but he got a lower time but both of my time and mph is quicker?I know he beat me by the reaction time but I came in at a faster time and mph?
You were nearly half a second behind out the gate but not half a second quicker or faster at the end.
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I get it know thanks for the help.What I still dont get is how he beat me my time and mph is quicker then him?I could see if my mph was faster then him but he got a lower time but both of my time and mph is quicker?I know he beat me by the reaction time but I came in at a faster time and mph?
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get it know thanks everybody.just got to get better at my reaction time.I have another question how many runs can you expect from a stock 10 bolt rear end with street tires and dumping the clutch like at 2000 to 2500 rpm?
You should be fine for quite a while if you stick with street tires, but there's no guarantee. BTW you should take that advice about reacting on the 3rd yellow, I went from averaging ~.7 rt to a consistant .1 or less when I learned that little trick 
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So do I stage shallow on the second light and then when the third yellow light comes on hit it?
