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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 10:41 AM
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well i got to the track with the glide.
there were only 3 slick cars at the track last night and it wasnt a perfect track, so im real happy with my results.
th350 1.37
6.37
107.19

glide 1.42
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i couldnt BELIEVE! the mph, so i hot lapped it back and ran 1.44 6.39 108.38
this is only with a 4.22 gear.
im not sure how much 60ft i can improve by going with more gear, but somebody tell me what i should put in it.

all motor, pump gas 408.
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 10:50 AM
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I'm a turbo car and my MPH at the 1/8th can change by 2MPH depending on humdity, temperature and wind direction. Also I run an iron block motor and depending on if they keep me waiting at the line while running my car I can change my MPH based on full heat soak versus somewhat cool.
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 11:03 AM
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do you only run 1/8 mile? hell if so you could probably get away with a 4.88
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 11:29 AM
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do you only run 1/8 mile? hell if so you could probably get away with a 4.88
i could get away with a 5.67 if i really wanted to get crazy, but i drive the car.
tried a 5.00 gear with my th350. it hit the tires too hard. with the 2.52 1st gear and the rear gear, the track had to be there to get down it.
it would 60 1.361-1.363, but the car fell off on the top end. 6.48 at 104. had some guys tell me it was flashing past my powerband, so i took it out and put the 4.22 in. it had a 4.33 previously with the above times.
the 5.00 didnt drive all that bad. with a 30" tire, i could cruise 70mph at 4000 rpms.
i may put it back in and see what i does.
at this point, im not sure how much OR how little gear will get me down the track the fastest.
time and money......
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 12:47 PM
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Might want to try the 4.33s again. If you have cash for another set, 4.56s.
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 02:42 PM
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I personally think the glide is overkill with your current set up and I think you could have gotten the th350 to work better (gears/converter) and the increase in mph you are seeing is most likely due to the weaker 60' and track conditions.
The weaker the 60' the better the mph will be. For ex. my car 60's from 1.29-1.32 usually and I only have turned a best mph of 110 in the 1/8th. Only 1.5x mph better that yours and I have a 441.
Put the th350 back in.
Keep the glide on the side for when you're making more power.
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 03:17 PM
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I agree!
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I am curious how the glide is over kill. Are you saying since he has only two gears he doesn't have to power to overcome giving up a gear or two?

If this is the case why not keep the trans and spray to get out of the hole!? Sounds better to me. Keep the trans, get killer 60s and 330s, smoke the 1/8!
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Originally Posted by custm2500
I am curious how the glide is over kill. Are you saying since he has only two gears he doesn't have to power to overcome giving up a gear or two?

If this is the case why not keep the trans and spray to get out of the hole!? Sounds better to me. Keep the trans, get killer 60s and 330s, smoke the 1/8!
Well yeah if he's gonna put more power through it it would be better used.
No argument there.
Glide has the long first gear, it's gonna hurt a car that's not making big power.
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Old Nov 22, 2009 | 09:15 AM
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So like I said juice till the 330 and kick some ***. Not that the times so far are bad at all!
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Originally Posted by custm2500
So like I said juice till the 330 and kick some ***. Not that the times so far are bad at all!
OP says all motor, pump gas. that's the set up I was commenting on.
for an all motor pump gas 408, imo, the trans is overkill.
take that same 408, dp fogger, 400 hit, race gas-glide is right on.
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Old Nov 22, 2009 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by tektrans
OP says all motor, pump gas. that's the set up I was commenting on.
for an all motor pump gas 408, imo, the trans is overkill.
take that same 408, dp fogger, 400 hit, race gas-glide is right on.
I hear ya. I was sugesting to th OP what I feel a better solution to the "too much tranny" issue. I guess I am quick to pull the nitrous trigger since it is so easy, powerfull, and most of all FUN!
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I'd agree too, never seen anyone suggest a glide over an A3 for a 400-600 hp all motor car. But good luck and congrats either way OP.
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 07:58 AM
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It depends on what the car weighs also but the glide is lighter and has less rotating weight than any other tranny. The glide will be much easier to 60' and not worry about spinning but I agree with the others. With the amount of power youre making the TH350 should be quicker but with enough gear the glide will be close. later
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 11:24 AM
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got back to the track.
ran the car with the glide on my previous shock and tire settings.
dont know if the track was any better, but its still a new best.
60ft is still shy of what my th350 did. to be expected.
1.43
6.373
108.64

going back on sunday to do some carb swapping to see if the car has another number left in it.
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by TJ
got back to the track.
ran the car with the glide on my previous shock and tire settings.
dont know if the track was any better, but its still a new best.
60ft is still shy of what my th350 did. to be expected.
1.43
6.373
108.64

going back on sunday to do some carb swapping to see if the car has another number left in it.
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 12:35 PM
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i've seen a glide pick up over a th350/th400 on several occasions in 400-600hp cars.The biggest problem most people have is they use the same converter when making the swap.The glide needs a totally different converter than the th350 due to the way it loads the converter.

I would suggest getting a converter built of the car-i believe that will put your 60' where it needs to be.
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Shawn @ VA Speed
i've seen a glide pick up over a th350/th400 on several occasions in 400-600hp cars.The biggest problem most people have is they use the same converter when making the swap.The glide needs a totally different converter than the th350 due to the way it loads the converter.

I would suggest getting a converter built of the car-i believe that will put your 60' where it needs to be.
this converter was originally built to go behind a glide from yank back in 2002. a buddy of mine ran it for a while, then i bought it off him.
ive had it in my car since 2004 behind 3 different th350's.
you are right in what you type. glides are picky about converters. i could play all day with different converters, i dont know that it would be worth more than a couple hundreths, or a half mph. id love more ET out of it, just dont know if its there.
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Originally Posted by TJ
this converter was originally built to go behind a glide from yank back in 2002. a buddy of mine ran it for a while, then i bought it off him.
ive had it in my car since 2004 behind 3 different th350's.
you are right in what you type. glides are picky about converters. i could play all day with different converters, i dont know that it would be worth more than a couple hundreths, or a half mph. id love more ET out of it, just dont know if its there.
i've seen 3 tenths and several mph in a proper converter.the proper converter will make or break a combo.unless the combo the converter was built for is exactly the same as you are running-you are leaving alot on the table-not only that,converter technology has progressed alot since 2002.If you ever decide you want to try something-let me know,i can hook you up with a great converter.
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Shawn @ VA Speed
i've seen 3 tenths and several mph in a proper converter.the proper converter will make or break a combo.unless the combo the converter was built for is exactly the same as you are running-you are leaving alot on the table-not only that,converter technology has progressed alot since 2002.If you ever decide you want to try something-let me know,i can hook you up with a great converter.
the converter was freshened up in 2006 with some new goodies in it. i believe it was a new type stator if i remember right.
actually picked the car up from 7.17 to 7.09 1/8 mile at the time.
but like you say... technology is changing daily.
i will keep you in mind when its time to play with converters.
i want to try a few more things and actually get some headers on this car so its not choked down. there may be some power there too.
thanks for all your help.
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