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Old 03-01-2010, 11:41 AM
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Insane, been keeping up on it all weekend. Thought about going but stayed home instead for a rain-out! Drag radial is quickly getting out of hand cost wise, and I wonder what the next few years will hold. Still love watching it...

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Drag radial was out of hand cost wise 3 years ago, well actually 5 minutes after ti got started.

If you can't do 100% of it yourself you're spending huge $, if you wanted to have a car built, at this point by the time you're done it's gonna be a good 125 grand to build one.

Yeah, I'd call that out of hand. **** you can get into an outlaw 10.5 car for that kind of $. I've seen plenty of those for sale turn key for under 100K and these are proven 6 second performers.


It's all getting out of hand, to the point that if you can't do the work yoruself, you pretty much can't have a competitive car anymore, anywhere. And I'm not talking the little stuff, I'm talking fab work. Or, at least have an in with someone that can do it, and helps ya out a little bit, that type of deal.
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What about the $300K vette that was first to run in 1st round elims? I was told it had a 6cyl modular motor and sounded like a chainsaw (quick to rev).
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Originally Posted by tee-boy
What about the $300K vette that was first to run in 1st round elims? I was told it had a 6cyl modular motor and sounded like a chainsaw (quick to rev).
You talking about Carters outlaw radial or Berrys all motor combo?
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Originally Posted by turbo'd stang
I guess the next big question....can a small block compete in DR?


I think Wolfe was just getting started, it'll go .30's before he is done.
You got to take wolfe out of the equasion, other than him a small block can run with 99% of the field. IF Wolfe had a small block the results would have been the same.
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You talking about Carters outlaw radial or Berrys all motor combo?
That's a good question; can't say I'm in the loop to answer that one. but the car went out in the 1st round.

I have to say that was true entertainment. Beet the heck out of going to the circus.
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Originally Posted by Phil99vette
You got to take wolfe out of the equasion, other than him a small block can run with 99% of the field. IF Wolfe had a small block the results would have been the same.
I think you are seeing the future as to what is coming in DR....

If Wolfe is at the same race as you, you can't take him out of the equation.
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End of the day Wolfe came out and dropped the gauntlet, and now the bar is set, and people are gonna do what they have to, so they're at the same level or faster. By this time next year the field will be full of cars going that fast or faster, the class is just out of control at this point.
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
Drag radial was out of hand cost wise 3 years ago, well actually 5 minutes after ti got started.
I agree that 2-3 years ago when Hance dropped an outlaw 10.5 engine in a drag radial car is when it started getting out of control. A buddy of mine has been in the fold for a few years and has won a few races, but 4.60-4.70 is starting to get the rep as first round fodder. Look at Pirez, he won the No Boost class just last May with 4.70s and he was running the 275 class with the same car this past weekend.

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Exactly. That's what I'm getting at... the guys that do drop the huge $ and set the bar, I mean yeah it's cool to break records and go faster then anyone has, but it eventually kills the class. What these guys should be doing, rather the ruining the class for everyone, is stepping up.

If that happened.. promod's would be running weekly everywhere by now, and guys with a small budget, might still have a place to race. What that will take to make that happen, I have no idea. Noone likes to stap up to a harder class when they're winning where they are I guess.
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We made the show with a small block. If I had a couple more passes we would have been in the 4.60s also. The track was so good I was having to work to keep the nose down at 400 feet.
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Nicks car looked like it was working well, just needed a few more passes.
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What do you do to keep the car's nose down that far out? At that point the travel limiters and whatnot aren't gonna do it I wouldn't think, it must be an IC thing no?


I've never had the issue that far down track, probably never will... but I know what you're talking about and have ofen wondered what do guys adjust to get that to stop
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I have a couple ideas if they work then we will be golden.
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I hope someday I have to call you and get ideas to solve this kind of problem.
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Originally Posted by turbo'd stang
I think you are seeing the future as to what is coming in DR....

If Wolfe is at the same race as you, you can't take him out of the equation.
Your 100% right. The question was raised if you could be competitive in radial with a small block. The rules at that race were pretty damn close and when I said take wolfe out of the equasion it was referring to the parity across the combos. Wolfe is going to be where he is at with a small block, big block, turbo, supercharger or nitrous combo, it doesnt matter. I still think that with those rules at ortc...
Small block Nitrous(100)
Small block SC(100)
Small block turbo 114(50)
Small block turbo 106(100)
Big block nitrous standard bore spacing(100)

need just alittle more weight break when your allowing
BB twin turbo
BB twin supercharger
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Trick is getting that weight out... with the limits that are in place it's not easy to take that much out of a car that's alreay at class min.
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
Trick is getting that weight out... with the limits that are in place it's not easy to take that much out of a car that's alreay at class min.
I guess your not talking to the right people. People who want to get the weight out have. At this level this class isn't for the faint at heart so you need to eliminate "Can't" and "impossible" out of your vocabulary.



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