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Old 10-06-2004, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by SilverGhost
rich, 01 told me yesterday he can't make it to thunder because there is a powder puff girl convention that weekend that he can't miss.
I believe it. He wont run because he knows at race race weight it is a modest 10.90 - 11.00
I want to see a 9.50 on the Jug
Old 10-06-2004, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackBeaSSt
01-Z: Is the cam something you had LG personally make for you, or is it a cam that they normally sell? What are the specs? Your previous cam was the G5-X2 correct? Has your bottom end been touched at all? What are your shiftpoints? If I remember correctly, you had a 10.73...when you switched cams, you lost a .10? (roughly) Were there any gains in power? Sorry for all the cam questions, Im looking to swap cams from my baby 224 and I wanna be sure to choose the right cam. I want to break into the 10s and Im going to need all the help that I can get because I think Im in the mid/high 3200s for race weight.

Awesome times by the way. Thats insane. Id be more than happy to see a 10.999.

When Sean switched from the X2 to the X3 he picked up some power, the only problem was it moved his power curve up and with a N20 converter he could not get the car to 60ft. So he worked with LG on this current cam and it seems to be working as it picked up 18rwhp over the X3. I believe he is shifting around 6900rpm.
Old 10-06-2004, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Silvr98z28
I believe it. He wont run because he knows at race race weight it is a modest 10.90 - 11.00
I want to see a 9.50 on the Jug
pretty much. add 400 lbs to the car to be in our class and that car might not even be in the 10's anymore

i love giving 01-z ****
Old 10-06-2004, 11:05 AM
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I think 01-Z likes boys too
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Old 10-06-2004, 01:38 PM
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LoL @ Rich and Sean.

LG knows the specs on the cam, I don't.I'm sure the can send you the same cam if
you want.
Bottom end is stock, the heads and intake have never been taken off.

It's not my fault you guys are too heavy to go fast.

The X-3 made more power than the X-2,The new one makes more power than the X-3.
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if I didn't have a 60 lb **** i'd go faster


i guess that explains 01's raceweight now doesn't it
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Originally Posted by 01-Z
LoL @ Rich and Sean.

LG knows the specs on the cam, I don't.I'm sure the can send you the same cam if
you want.
Bottom end is stock, the heads and intake have never been taken off.

It's not my fault you guys are too heavy to go fast.

The X-3 made more power than the X-2,The new one makes more power than the X-3.
What kind of P/V clearance do you have on the stock heads, most importantly on the intake side?
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Originally Posted by JF WS6
What kind of P/V clearance do you have on the stock heads, most importantly on the intake side?
I have no idea.

Enough, I guess.
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Silverghost-
How does your neck support that 60lb. head?

and NO, I won't go out with you, stop PMing me.
Old 10-06-2004, 04:03 PM
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FINE i'll quit p.m'ing you if you tell your wife to quit calling me


sorry sean not all of us are 5 feet tall and 100 lbs soaking wet like you.


<---------6' 2" 185lbs of lovin'
Old 10-06-2004, 05:45 PM
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I'm 5'10, 155 lbs.

Sorry, she thought you were selling AVON.
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Originally Posted by 01-Z
I have no idea.

Enough, I guess.
How did you find out if it would clear or not? Did LG do all the work on this then? Sounds like a good cam, but I have 15 thou. milled off my heads so I'm guessing it wouldn't clear on a setup with stage II heads without flycutting.
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Is the cam more for a naturally aspirated setup, nitrous, or both? Im looking for a naturally aspirated cam? So youre shiftpoints are at 6900 and you would probably need the rev limiter to be around 7100-7200 rpms, and the bottom end is completely stock?

You said the new cam makes more power than the X3 and X2, and that the X3 had a higher power curve than the X2, where did the curve go with the new cam? Do you want the curve to be lower or higher? I know youre gonna laugh on this one, but what exactly is power curve?

So if you dont know the specs on this cam, then obviously you didnt call them up to have them build you one to your specs. So...I assume this is a new cam that they have just released or will release soon, or did they just make you one for your particular application? Sorry for all the cam questions, but Im ready for a cam swap. This baby 224 has to come out!
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The cam is for nitrous. It is bigger than the X-3 and they made it for him only. The power curve is the power that the car makes starting from idle all the way to redline. For example, my car might make 400rwhp vs. your car which only makes 390rwhp but all other things being identical you are faster than me. This is because you might make 390rwhp from 5k and up where I might not even be at 380 at 5500. I just have a higher PEAK hp than you. All of the rwhp and rwtq numbers you see are peak which is why some cars don't show alot of power and still haul ***. Peaky cars are dyno queens. If your going for a a big cam NA cam the TREX is badass and so is the X3 which is also good for the bottle if you ever decide to go there. Usually, more exhaust duration is better for nitrous but lift and LSA effect it as well.
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This is more of an N/A grind.I gave Lou a ballpark of what I wanted, and I made
it clear that it BETTER fit.It did and runs great.
Contrary to popular belief, I have been shifting this car @ 7k(and launching when
it was a six speed) for over 400 passes and so far I have put 10-10# bottles through
it.(40 passes /150 shot) and so far it is fine.I punish this car everytime I drive it.
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01-Z: Its amazing that your bottom end is holding up with those kind of rpms and running nitrous as well. Ive always had the impression that running those rpms for a period of time will soon break. So you shift at 7000, what is your limiter set at?

SStolen: So if I had no intentions for nitrous, then its no a cam I should consider? But if you look at it in a different perspective, it does awesome naturally aspirated and currently holds the fastest cam only record. I really dont care too much about dyno numbers as most race car drivers dont. Im just concerned about my times. I havent had the car on the dyno since April of '03. Back then, it was a 6 speed and had lots of mods less, but it put down 417 rwhp and 388 rwtq. HP peak was around 6300. At 5000 rpms, it made roughly 375 rwhp and was around the tq peak. (388) Anyhow, so you want the power to come in faster right? More power at sooner rpms? You say your recommend the T-Rex or the X-3, but I thought I read somewhere that the X-2 had a better/sooner/lower power curve? Wouldnt that benefit you more at the track? Then on the T-Rex, I thought it was a dyno queen cam...that it puts out high hp numbers. Not saying your wrong or anything, just wanted to be clear on everything. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by BlackBeaSSt
I thought I read somewhere that the X-2 had a better/sooner/lower power curve? Wouldnt that benefit you more at the track? Then on the T-Rex, I thought it was a dyno queen cam...that it puts out high hp numbers. Not saying your wrong or anything, just wanted to be clear on everything. Thanks.
lower power curve dont benefit you if you never go that low my power curve is nuts from about 5k on, and car never goes under like 5300 or so going down the track. yes, its a dyno queen cam, one of the few that runs as good as it dynos. i was told that i would never get good 60's and run under 11.4 cause my torque sucked, well guess that was wrong also and i havent even hit good air yet with this pig.
there are about 4 or 5 awsome cams out there right now that can get you into the 10's with the right setup, you can't go off of everones track numbers, we are all set up different, with large weight differences and running conditions. just have to pic the one that looks the best for you or do what sean did and have one made.

Sean, do you still have stock rod bolts in that monster, 400passes at 7k is nuts.
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yep, stock Rod bolts.
The less stuff I have to mess with on the engine the better.
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Originally Posted by SMOKIN01TA
lower power curve dont benefit you if you never go that low my power curve is nuts from about 5k on, and car never goes under like 5300 or so going down the track. yes, its a dyno queen cam, one of the few that runs as good as it dynos. i was told that i would never get good 60's and run under 11.4 cause my torque sucked, well guess that was wrong also and i havent even hit good air yet with this pig.
there are about 4 or 5 awsome cams out there right now that can get you into the 10's with the right setup, you can't go off of everones track numbers, we are all set up different, with large weight differences and running conditions. just have to pic the one that looks the best for you or do what sean did and have one made.

Sean, do you still have stock rod bolts in that monster, 400passes at 7k is nuts.
no ****...I havent ridden in a car yet (cam only) that pulled as hard as this one does.


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