I dont get it?
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I dont get it? Alot of people are quoting times and saying they are stock. Even though they have a filter, lid or catback. Stock means stock. Alot of people consider just Exhaust and lid stock. It makes a huge difference specially in these cars. The most anoying thing is whenever there is a thread that asks evryones stock times people start posting there numbers and saying they "JUST" have a cat back and lid? Now the discussion that if stock mean stock tires too is a little bit different.
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Just different opinions on what people think is stock.
Before I put on my nitrous kit, I considered my car basically stock even though I had a stall, lid and catback.
I have also seen people tell me their ride is a street legal race car when all they have is headers, cam and 4.10 gears.
Before I put on my nitrous kit, I considered my car basically stock even though I had a stall, lid and catback.
I have also seen people tell me their ride is a street legal race car when all they have is headers, cam and 4.10 gears.
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I have never considered a lid, filter and a catback as some serious hp adders. every car is different in response. there r many cars around with those parts and there r many stock to filter cars who ran and perform better times.
usually if a car isnt making much power over stock i'd think of them as stock, regardless of what mods are done, unless its a full suspension/stalled auto or something that would actually make alot of difference at the track. like a stock car with a stall is not a stock car, but a car with headers that still isnt breaking out of 13s to me is still pretty much a stock car...
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Originally Posted by spy2520
usually if a car isnt making much power over stock i'd think of them as stock, regardless of what mods are done, unless its a full suspension/stalled auto or something that would actually make alot of difference at the track. like a stock car with a stall is not a stock car, but a car with headers that still isnt breaking out of 13s to me is still pretty much a stock car...
most people consider stock as not going into the motor.bolt-ons without changing the cam or heads(running your stock internals)is considerd stock. all your doing is freeing up the hp you already have.even the 60s/70s muscle cars did the same thing.
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Verdad Gallardo i dont know any full bolt-on cars around 360-380rwhp without a cam, but yes, a full bolt-on car that is easily capable of 12s and possibly high 11s if its a well thought out car is not stock.
what do you call full bolt-ons? because all the bolt-ons i can think of only free up power, they dont make any extra, like a lid, which doesnt even actually bolt on...
edit: ok i'll give it to you, it is easily possible to have a 300rwhp f-body and it put out 330-340rwhp after bolt-ons. but a lid and catback is miles away from a full bolt-on car...
what do you call full bolt-ons? because all the bolt-ons i can think of only free up power, they dont make any extra, like a lid, which doesnt even actually bolt on...
edit: ok i'll give it to you, it is easily possible to have a 300rwhp f-body and it put out 330-340rwhp after bolt-ons. but a lid and catback is miles away from a full bolt-on car...
Last edited by spy2520; Feb 6, 2007 at 03:27 PM.
Originally Posted by nyrs6
Alot of people are quoting times and saying they are stock. Even though they have a filter, lid or catback. Stock means stock. Alot of people consider just Exhaust and lid stock. It makes a huge difference specially in these cars. The most anoying thing is whenever there is a thread that asks evryones stock times people start posting there numbers and saying they "JUST" have a cat back and lid? Now the discussion that if stock mean stock tires too is a little bit different.
As others have said its a difference in opinion. Also a catback/lid/filter dont make a huge difference in our cars, maybe 10 rwhp, so baically it all comes down to ones definition of stock.
Originally Posted by nyrs6
A Camaro with full boltons add about 30-40 whp while some cars it takes a supercharger or NOS to do that. And you would not consider that car stock.
Originally Posted by nyrs6
The most anoying thing is whenever there is a thread that asks evryones stock times people start posting there numbers and saying they "JUST" have a cat back and lid?
A stock car is a "stock" car... self explanatory. If you have LT's its not stock anymore. An airlid added to your car i would still consider it stock bc SS's came with them, if they went to SLP, but it was an option. Lid, filter, and free mods i still say thats stock anything the improves airflow shoots down the stock name. 
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If it has a K&N filter then it's modded. I wholeheartedly agree with the thread starter and also wonder why people think a car with "any" mod would still be stock. If it came from the dealer with mods such as the SLP options then it would be stock, but if you added it, it ain't stock.