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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 06:41 PM
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Looking for anyone that has ditched the factory steering column and went light weight.... my goal is 2800lbs with me in it so this needs to go.
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 04:41 PM
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> I cut this from www.frrax.com Woodward / Momo goodness

Got the steering hardware in for the current build: Woodward SCA827 column with Momo 78 wheel, Blaine Fab adapters on each end. Total weight is 10# vs 26# for the OEM stuff.

OK for AI and ITE, but not CMC.

The columns are available in a variety of lengths, this one is quite long.

The Woodward column has 9" of telescoping section at the bottom, which is required by some clubs (NASA, for ex) in case the front of the car gets compressed it will reduce the chance of spearing the driver. Some of the telescoping section can be used to fine tune the position of the wheel.

I had a batch of adapters machined up that connect the Woodward spline to the OEM intermediate shaft profile. It will get TIG welded, stress relieved, and hopefully plated, if I can find a plater that will do small batches at a reasonable cost.

Firewall and dash bar mounts are Delrin lined aluminum ***** in a gymbal. I have a different dash bar mount coming that will simplify the install.

edit: got the dash bar mount in today, added pics of it

Woodward SFI quick disconnect is extremely tight, has 1.75" of spline engagement. It is nicer than the Grant QD but won't work on the OEM column.

This Blaine Fab steering wheel adapter is a little lighter for the Woodward QD compared to the one I make for the Grant QD. It can be drilled for 6bolt, 5bolt, or custom.

This Momo Model 78 wheel is 350mm dia, also available in 330mm

If there is interest, I could work up a GP on the package, with or without the wheel, for those that already have a good one.

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QUOTE (trackbird @ Jun 13 2008, 12:53 PM) *
Any idea of the price for such a package (I have a 3rd gen, but even in general)?


It all fits a 3rd gen just fine. The nominal length of the shaft is custom, to suit the drivers position. Total cost including the Momo wheel would be about $700, about $480 without the wheel. If I got a 5-10 unit GP going I expect it would be 10-15% off of that.


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QUOTE (trackbird @ Jun 13 2008, 12:53 PM) *
Any idea of the price for such a package (I have a 3rd gen, but even in general)?


It all fits a 3rd gen just fine. The nominal length of the shaft is custom, to suit the drivers position. Total cost including the Momo wheel would be about $700, about $480 without the wheel. If I got a 5-10 unit GP going I expect it would be 10-15% off of that.



I added some pics of the dash bar mount that I received today. Both the dash bar and the single post style mount have a spherical ball and collars for angle and fore/aft adjustment. The single post style would knock about $40 off the prices I stated above.


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I'm looking at it Alan wink.gif this would be a simple bolt in deal for me right?


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QUOTE (firehawkclone @ Jun 20 2008, 11:27 AM) *
I'm looking at it Alan wink.gif this would be a simple bolt in deal for me right?


John -

The good news: You already have the Momo wheel, and 3bolt to 6bolt adapter (just need to drill out the 3 middle holes from 1/4" to 5/16" for the Woodward QD), and your stripped column with the Grant QD is saleable. Replacing the key cylinder, bypassing VATS, and wiring ign/start switches is very straightforward.

The bad news: Your OEM instrument panel will complicate the column mount, so not completely bolt in. 2 ways to proceed:

1) Get the single post mount, and have a mount tab welded to the back of the dash bar. Critical weld, and should be gusseted, so have it done by someone you trust. Requires R&R of the IP/dash for access, and removal of the OEM mount bracket (grind a couple of welds off).

2) Get the dash bar mount, which will bolt on to your dash bar, but passes thru the space occupied by your instrument panel,
so toss it in favor of aftermarket gauges. Requires removal of the IP only, dash can stay in place. Needs an instrument panel fabbed to fit the space, drilled for the gauges of choice.


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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 07:17 PM
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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 07:46 AM
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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 08:08 AM
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we have a steering column kit that we use to replace the factory column. give me a call at the shop for details, pricing, and shipping options. shop phone number is in the signature.
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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 01:32 PM
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madmans rack and column is nice... (no pun intended)
you wont be dissapointed with his products nor his service.
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Old May 9, 2009 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by mad_steve
we have a steering column kit that we use to replace the factory column. give me a call at the shop for details, pricing, and shipping options. shop phone number is in the signature.
Got any pics?
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Old May 9, 2009 | 07:59 PM
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Competition engineering has a kit. That's what I'm going to use on my impala.
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this is the kit in the build we have now.
Attached Thumbnails steering column ?-100_0602.jpg   steering column ?-100_0756.jpg  
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Old May 9, 2009 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by yrlosing
this is the kit in the build we have now.
That's the Madman kit?
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Old May 9, 2009 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by LSmonster
That's the Madman kit?
i don't think so? it was in the car when we got it, and it was done like 6 years ago.

i think it's the comp engineering kit??
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We carry the Racecraft 'bolt in kit.
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Old May 11, 2009 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by LSmonster
Got any pics?
I don't have any pics of the column at the moment. Next install we do, I will definitely get some pics, and post em up.
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Old May 11, 2009 | 05:22 PM
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Ok... Talked with Racecraft today. They have a direct bolt-in kit that goes for $179 for just the column, bracket for stock location bolt-up, bushings, and the tube that goes down the center of the column. For $449, you can get the column kit, steering shaft, and quick release hub. I should have pictures of everything sometime tomorrow. I'll post them up as I receive them.
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Old May 11, 2009 | 05:28 PM
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how much weight does it save?
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How much weight savings and does have everything to hook directly to the Madman rack?
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Old May 12, 2009 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Firehawk441
How much weight savings and does have everything to hook directly to the Madman rack?
if you buy the kit for $449, then you will have everything you need to hook to our rack. Only thing you'll need after that is a steering wheel.

I will check for weight savings today.
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Finally got these pictures this mornin. If anyone is interested in ordering, please call me at the shop. 225-673-3533





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Thanks for the pictures. How much does the column weigh less the steering shaft to the rack?
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is it safe to say the stock steering wheel will not work with the racecraft column?
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