blockheadnic

can you get a 98 formula down to 3k lbs while still having all the interior plastic pieces, and dash?

WMSuperSport

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yep..

c5z28

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try being more vague please

bongva

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yes i would like to know as well

xpndbl3

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read the weight reduction sticky then....

bongva

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cool sorry man i didnt know there was one. thanks for the info

BlackScreaminMachine

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Basically your going to gut the car....

No A/C or HVAC
No Stereo
Light weight carpet
Light weight suspension/chassis peices
Light weight Brakes
Race Seats
The shaving weight where you can.....

Then when you go fast enough, to add all the safety ****

JL ws-6

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Yes it can be done, I'm aiming for 2900 when I'm done with an 8.50 cert cage in it.

SScam68

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I'm at 2920, or there abouts already.

And I still don't have drag brakes or manual steering.

Kept interior plastic and even a dummy stock radio so the car looks "stock".

BlackScreaminMachine

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Yea, every car is differnet, not everyone can have Chromonly susp peices and depending on the intended use of the car will vary even if you keep a stereo. I will say I have seen 1st hand and have helped gutting a car, its fun but at the same time I dont have to drive it on the steet

JL ws-6

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2900 that's not with driver, unless you can legally be classified as one of the little people.

TS6

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I think you went a little far there.

My Camaro would be 3000 with stock seats, power steering, full stereo if not for the iron block and blower/ic.

JL ws-6

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I dunno, my transam with my 280 lbs in it is 3350, so that's 3070 without me in it.

If you're talking with the driver, if you're a little 140 lb guy then yeah maybe.

I know I have a solid 300 lbs left to take out, so I should be able to get it to 3050 or so, if I lose a good bit myself, probably 3000 or under with me in it.

But, you start adding nitrous bottles, 8.50 cert stuff, 12 bolt rear's, 3.5 inch dual exhaust it gets alot harder to get down.

I still have the stock k member and rack in the car and stock a arms, that stuff is 50 right there, speedglass windshield and back window is another 50, race wiring the car is another 20, and a 3 gal cell in the nose is about 20 more. minitub is about 30 lbs, go as narrow with the rear as possible will offset the added weight of a set of beadlocks, wolfe door skins and the door bars out is like another 25 lbs. There's alot that can be done, just have to be willing to spend the $ and time.

TS6

iTrader: (41)

My car was 3140 last year (dry).

Since then I have done:

Kirkey seat--23ish lbs
door bars--14 lbs
Speedglass rear window--34 lbs
Rear drag brakes--25 lbs
Narrowed rear slightly and went spool--10 lbs?
went from Spohn bar to TRZ setup--20-25 lbs?

Thats 125 ish lbs right there. My goal is 3000 dry. I think its pretty light for an iron block blower car.

I still have PS, stereo, cruise, heat, etc. Pretty much lost the A/C and power brakes.

BlackScreaminMachine

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Like said, ever car is different, I wouldnt put speed glass in a car due to class restrictions and it is street driven, and narrowing the rear is something I wouldnt do until I wanted to put a 30" tire in it.

Being a formula it is lighter then a Trans Am or WS.6 but still heavier then Camaros.....

I know for a fact, car for car a z28 camaro with all the same options except the camaro has a disk changer and no ABS and I have ABS and No disk changer my car was 140ish pounds more. I have a NON-ws6 car. Same drive line, t-tops on both etc etc

Firebirds on average have some what a dissadvantage. Formulas tend to be a bit better but who knows.

There are different recipies for loosing weight and just changing a driver could swing final race weight by 25-150 pounds easy.

JL ws-6

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Only class the speedglass may be a problem for me is the stuff @ ned, but with the new stuff that percy's has out that speedwerkz is selling, if you can in fact mount it with glue and the boarder is blacked out like stock glass I would be willing to bet noone would even notice.

ndfrsd6

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i agree on the new drop in glass they have is very factory looking ...if its installed right no one should notice but there is the chance they'll catch it

BlackScreaminMachine

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Of course, just recently released and with the new technology, that will be the case, but had this post been made a month ago, that may not have been the case.

The cars have been gutted to with in an inch of it's life and I have seen personally a Hard top 99 HOSS cut to peices where only the cockpit remained, I mean people get pretty nutty when it comes to weight.

blockheadnic

Sweet iam getting rid of the hvac **** for sure, maybe not my stereo.
I want to get to 3000 without spending cash first.

I just want it to look stock at a glance.

JL ws-6

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The hvac and all the ductwork and wiring is a good bit of weight, I bet with the a/c compressor and all that it's got to be close to 100 lbs.

Axe the stereo and all the wiring for that and I bet that's another 50 with the speakers.

That stuff is heavy.