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Old Apr 18, 2009 | 07:40 AM
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Ok, I'm in need of launch control (2 step) for my M6 Camaro SS.

It's a street car that sees a track visit 5-6 times per year.

It passes emissions here in Atlanta, GA and does have ARH headers/y-pipe w/ cats. I'm not sure what type of cats ARH uses... bullets?

At any rate, I'd like to hear from the guys that run a 2 step at the track w/ cats with good results, i.e. no catalyst failure.

I only plan to mat the throttle and engage the 2 step on the 1st/2nd green. So the time exposure would be minimized - maybe 2 seconds.

Thanks for your help guys.
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Old Apr 18, 2009 | 08:29 AM
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The raw fuel dumping into the exhaust will destroy the cats. I had the dynatech headers with the swappable cat/testpipes, but I barely ever used the cats. I let my cousin drive the car and he engaged the 2 step not knowing the cats were on and blew one of them out the tailpipe. It didn't take more than a couple seconds. I was standing outside the car and before I could scream for him to shut it off there was a loud backfire and sparks flying out of the exhaust.
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Old Apr 18, 2009 | 12:47 PM
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what he said.you will eventually ruin/destroy the cats.
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Old Apr 18, 2009 | 12:55 PM
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The raw fuel dumping into the exhaust will destroy the cats. I had the dynatech headers with the swappable cat/testpipes, but I barely ever used the cats. I let my cousin drive the car and he engaged the 2 step not knowing the cats were on and blew one of them out the tailpipe. It didn't take more than a couple seconds. I was standing outside the car and before I could scream for him to shut it off there was a loud backfire and sparks flying out of the exhaust.
So he engaged the 2 step at the line and then the car went boom?

I figured that back firing was just par for the course with a 2 step... cats or no cats.

So, after the back fire what happened? Does the cat just clog and the car won't run?

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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 08:56 AM
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He turned the 2 step on in my driveway just to hear the sound. The cat blew apart and the chunks flew out the tailpipe almost instantly. The raw fuel hitting the glowing cat will ignite and explode in the exhaust.
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 07:29 PM
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Yup. 2 step plus cats, is a no no. You want to hollow them out it's a good way to do it

Just unhook the catback because there's gonna be chunks of cat. converter flying out the pipe and will be jammed in the muffler and whatnot.

Hell when I put the 402 in my car the cats blew out just from running the unleaded race gas. Probably got about 200 miles on the setup and about 10 track runs and they were crumbling and flying and clogging up the catback.
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 08:23 PM
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Thanks for the info guys....

Does anyone plan to make a launch control that cuts fuel?
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the 2 step built into efi-live is a fuel cut.
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 06:06 PM
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Really?/ Intresting, I thought they all just cut spark.

Learn something new every day
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 06:53 PM
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Just get rid of the cats and tune the cats out.......
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Originally Posted by dlove
the 2 step built into efi-live is a fuel cut.
The stock rev limiter cuts fuel as well...

When you say the 2 step built into efi-live, are you saying that through efi-live you can actually setup the stock computer as a launch control??
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by cablebandit
Just get rid of the cats and tune the cats out.......
It may come to that man... I'm just exhausting all resources before I rip the y-pipe out of the car and spend more cash....
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oh yeah...congrats on the times. I forgot to reply to your email and yes i owe you 20bux!! Gonna go to mce weekend?

sell the cats or just gut them.
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by cablebandit
oh yeah...congrats on the times. I forgot to reply to your email and yes i owe you 20bux!! Gonna go to mce weekend?

sell the cats or just gut them.
Just buy me a beer sometime man.

I'm skipping MCE this time.... but I'll be heading back to Silver Dollar this time next month if you're game?

I'd like to keep the cats functioning if possible.... have you used the vallet mode in EFI Live for launch control?
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 09:39 AM
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valet mode in EFI live is the launch control. Also very fun from a roll, ask some bikes about my car on the 2 step next to them with open headers

and yes the stock rev limiter is a fuel cut.
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dlove
valet mode in EFI live is the launch control. Also very fun from a roll, ask some bikes about my car on the 2 step next to them with open headers

and yes the stock rev limiter is a fuel cut.
Ok... so with EFI Live I can have a launch control that cuts fuel and I can keep my cats??
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 12:56 PM
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yes. We have been using it for a 2 step during shifts on a m6 car. Installed a micro switch on the clutch pedal. Set the 2 step to be like 5k. WOT shifts are like butter now. It pulls the power away while you shift so it makes it very easy. This car still has the cats in it.

However I dont recommend sitting on the 2 step for ling, being that it is a fuel cut.
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