Drag Racing Tech
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Need advice on suspension setup

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 12, 2003 | 11:37 PM
  #1  
Got Me SOM's Avatar
Thread Starter
10 Second Club
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 6,368
Likes: 0
From: Orlando, Florida
Default Need advice on suspension setup

Hi all,
I went to the track and spun my way to a 13.12 @ 108 mph. With my new verter I am obliterating my stock tires. Granted I am at one of the worst drag strips ever at Orlando Speed World for getting traction but I don't think that's an excuse to getting 2.2 60 foots.

What would help the most and make the most noticeable difference. I want my car to hook good.

I know I'll need lower control arms, but will I need a torque arm too? Will subframes help?

I will be getting some Nitto 275/40/17 to go on my stock wheels so that should help a little.

Any advice is appreciated. What manufacture do you guys recommend? BMR?
I want the setup that will work.

Thanks in advance

Jeff

mods in sig.
Reply
Old Dec 13, 2003 | 12:31 AM
  #2  
1fstTA's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (25)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 648
Likes: 0
From: shreveport, Louisiana
Default

I pull 1.38 60's and first off get some tires I dont care how much hp your making if you dont have a tire that will hook your going nowhere.

second I have the full hal 12way adj setup and love it.

third I run a spohn tq arm but thats not really any help unless your at 400+rwhp

4th move the battery to the trunk

5th absoutly get lowering control arms and Id spring for the relocating brackets also

That will defintely help your 60's
Reply
Old Dec 13, 2003 | 12:43 AM
  #3  
Got Me SOM's Avatar
Thread Starter
10 Second Club
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 6,368
Likes: 0
From: Orlando, Florida
Default

Thanks.

Looks like I'll go with lca's and Nitto's.
do the relo brackets have to be welded in? How do you know where to set them?

sorry I'm a suspension noob.
Reply
Old Dec 13, 2003 | 08:38 AM
  #4  
Squintz Palladoris's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,252
Likes: 0
From: Fayettenam, North Cakalki
Default

Originally Posted by Got Me SOM
Thanks.

Looks like I'll go with lca's and Nitto's.
do the relo brackets have to be welded in? How do you know where to set them?

sorry I'm a suspension noob.
Lca's replace the stock ones you just bolt them in. The only rason you would need to set them is if you buy an adjustable set.
If you get the adjustables then make them the same length as the stockers before you put them on, then set your pinion angle by adjusting them while they are on the car.
Brad
Reply
Old Dec 13, 2003 | 10:50 AM
  #5  
Got Me SOM's Avatar
Thread Starter
10 Second Club
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 6,368
Likes: 0
From: Orlando, Florida
Default

What is the right pinion angle to go with? This car is primarily street driven. I've heard of people running 3 degrees is that right?? How can I verify the pinion angle, what would I use and where do I measure? On the driveshaft?
Reply
Old Dec 15, 2003 | 11:56 AM
  #6  
Lane's Avatar
TECH Resident
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 955
Likes: 0
From: Vertigo
Default

<----1.52 on stock suspension(!front swaybar) with Mac subframes, LCA's and Mac Panhard bar(stock would be fine though IMO). Went 1.53 with Hals and Random Tech torque arm.

Don't get me wrong, Hals rock - especially when the track is questionable. Adjustability is great and I loved them, but the stock suspension on our cars works pretty well too.

I would: pull the front sway-bar, get some good subframes welded in, some LCA's and you're set. And as mentioned before - very sticky tires.

<---Yank PT4200, stock internals, n/a
Reply
Old Dec 16, 2003 | 10:03 AM
  #7  
SilverGhost's Avatar
Motorboater
iTrader: (53)
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 7,731
Likes: 1
From: Chi-town
Default

I'm all about the freebies for people just getting started.
Yank that front sway bar, put the battery in the back as mentioned already..will help you alot.
a 275 nitto is still going to be a bit difficult to work with, so you're going to want to transfer weight as much as possible to help the car hook.

i agree on the subframes and lca's being the two suspension mods to start with. do those and the free stuff and see how the car is at that point and then evaluate further needs.
Reply
Old Dec 16, 2003 | 11:54 AM
  #8  
Lane's Avatar
TECH Resident
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 955
Likes: 0
From: Vertigo
Default

$50 will get you an 11lb battery that works very well. Easier than the relocation kit - and saves you more weight overall for sure.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

6 Gifts Neither Your Dad Nor Grad Will Shove Into the 'Trinket Drawer'

 Brett Foote
story-1

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-6

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-8

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-9

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Dec 16, 2003 | 01:23 PM
  #9  
SilverGhost's Avatar
Motorboater
iTrader: (53)
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 7,731
Likes: 1
From: Chi-town
Default

I relocated my battery for like 50 bucks, but I had a hookup for a discount on 2 guage cable to do it with.
Reply
Old Dec 16, 2003 | 01:56 PM
  #10  
RedHardSupra's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,904
Likes: 2
From: Laurel, MD
Default

Call Sam Strano of www.stranoparts.com, he is a suspension god, just make sure you got time, cause the man likes to get into the finer details
Reply
Old Dec 16, 2003 | 06:47 PM
  #11  
Got Me SOM's Avatar
Thread Starter
10 Second Club
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 6,368
Likes: 0
From: Orlando, Florida
Default

that's no problem I love to learn something new everyday!
Reply
Old Dec 16, 2003 | 06:50 PM
  #12  
Got Me SOM's Avatar
Thread Starter
10 Second Club
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 6,368
Likes: 0
From: Orlando, Florida
Default

How much does my stock battery weigh? I'd rather put a lighter one than relocate to the back. How hard is it to pull the front swaybar?

I want to do that and go back to the track this Friday, if it doesn't rain.
Reply
Old Dec 16, 2003 | 06:53 PM
  #13  
Pro Stock John's Avatar
LS1Tech Co-Founder
20 Year Member
Community Influencer
iTrader: (34)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 45,361
Likes: 1,792
From: Chicago, IL
Default

1) drag radials
2) lower control arms - helps with wheelhop from the nittos and reduces deflection
3) do a 6 second burnout with the nittos, and then at the line wack it. If you spin, next time foot stall the gas up to 1500 and roll out and floor it fast but gradually. Do this faster and faster until you find the limits of the track

You should cut high 1.6's at least.
Reply
Old Dec 16, 2003 | 07:27 PM
  #14  
Got Me SOM's Avatar
Thread Starter
10 Second Club
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 6,368
Likes: 0
From: Orlando, Florida
Default

sounds goog PSJ, I shall try that. Need to Get Me SOM (get it?) Drag Radials fast!!
Reply
Old Dec 17, 2003 | 11:50 AM
  #15  
V6 Bird's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 5,109
Likes: 0
From: Grand Prairie, TX
Default

I forgot to mention rear V6 springs I think. They work well for me. Some don't buy into it, but I like 'em.

<-----Lane
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:07 PM.

story-0
6 Gifts Neither Your Dad Nor Grad Will Shove Into the 'Trinket Drawer'

Don't get dad new socks or a grill brush this year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-04 05:00:17


VIEW MORE
story-1
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 11:05:11


VIEW MORE
story-2
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-3
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-4
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-6
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-9
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE