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Old 01-15-2010 | 03:59 PM
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No, the front rod end threads to about 6-8inc lenth of thick tubeing with the smooth OD. And the front on the TA has a smooth ID that tube slides into (grease it) so as it gose thu the arc of the LCA it telescopes in length. Sliding to make up the arc diffrence.
Its the forth/loft (somthing like that) motion of the TA car, diffrent the a latter bar and a 4link setup. Without it there is a bind if you have a fixed front mount.

And they say, the TA can still be in a bind unless you have the rear upper and lower bolts nertral. Thats why the madman TA has the adjusters upper and lower. I dosnt see how the TA could be in a bind within its self, being a fixed triangle. But thats what guys get these them to work say, so Im going with it.
Old 01-17-2010 | 10:24 PM
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[QUOTE=DanZ28;12730609]Do these help you at all? Few shots of my 275 build...



What is that U shaped thing hanging off of the bottom of the rear?
Is that for jacking up the car?

I've got to tell you, this car looks off-the-hook.
If this is the engineering that is going into 275DR cars, I am in big trouble!

What kind of rear is that?
Who is making all this custom equipment?

I thought I would step up to the M9, from my Moser 12 bolt, but even that looks outdated compared to that rear.

I may as well stop my planning and go back to Index racing. LOL...

PS. Would this car be legal in a "stock style" suspension class?
I would guess yes, since it does not have coil-overs?
Old 01-18-2010 | 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
What is that U shaped thing hanging off of the bottom of the rear?
Is that for jacking up the car?

I've got to tell you, this car looks off-the-hook.
If this is the engineering that is going into 275DR cars, I am in big trouble!

What kind of rear is that?
Who is making all this custom equipment?

I thought I would step up to the M9, from my Moser 12 bolt, but even that looks outdated compared to that rear.

I may as well stop my planning and go back to Index racing. LOL...

PS. Would this car be legal in a "stock style" suspension class?
I would guess yes, since it does not have coil-overs?
Thanks for the compliment.

The rear, suspension and all cage work was made by Mike the owner of Enterprise Motorsports.

The rear started out as a standard HD 9" housing only (no axle tubes or anything) and he just built everything else for it except the sway bar but he even added bars to that. I didn't want any rear end problems so I wanted this thing beefy, plus I wanted something I could step up to a bigger tire later if I wanted .

That hoop hanging down is for jacking and also for tieing down the car.

Yep, It's still legal for stock style suspension too.

There are many different kinds of 275 classes, the one I will run though is more like an Outlaw or Extreme 275 and pretty competitive with several fast cars.

I'm sure you will do fine with your choices and be competitive, stay heads up racing! Also, the M9 is a nice rear, you should be fine...
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you running that anti roll bar in stock suspension? Tabs are welded to chassis and bar is bolted to the tabs?? So consider it a bolt on???
Old 01-18-2010 | 09:49 AM
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To tie the car up, that's very cool.
Old 01-18-2010 | 10:17 AM
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Coil overs are legal for stock suspension classes now. Look under 99.9% of the mustangs they all have coil overs on the back of the housing, it's accepted now.
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
Coil overs are legal for stock suspension classes now. Look under 99.9% of the mustangs they all have coil overs on the back of the housing, it's accepted now.

what about antil roll bar? stock suspension or not?

I see "aftermarket sway bar OK". does that pertain to anti roll bar as well?
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
To tie the car up, that's very cool.
Yes, my fab guy is a mopar fan, so he made it an upside down mopar "M", lol. He's actually building a twin turbo Hemi Firebird that will be off the hook...

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what about antil roll bar? stock suspension or not?

I see "aftermarket sway bar OK". does that pertain to anti roll bar as well?
Yes, anti roll bar is legal. I would have liked to do a wishbone setup but don't think it would fly...
Old 01-18-2010 | 11:40 AM
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The wishbone is a sketchy thing.. some will allow it some won't It's nice that it stops the rear from shifting side to side like we deal with due to the phb arc, only thing we can do is try to keep the phb in the shortest part of the arc as possible to reduce the problems that causes.

PHB is probably stronger then a wishbone if the car gets way out of shape too though, as long as the mounts are boxed and braced right, wichbone's don't have much in the strength department if the car gets sideways.

I wanted to put one on mine believe me... but I'm holding off on that just because I don't want any issues. The PHB will stay.. it's getting moved back a little bit to clear the coilovers, but it will be there, attached to at least 1/2 the factory mount
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so what's advantage of coil over vs. stock located aftermarket springs and stock located DA shocks?
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Coil overs in the back control the housing a little better, instead of having the forces multiplied because of leverage, now it's the other way around, if that makes sense. Ease of adjustment, the springs aren't in the way of hitting the tires anymore, easier to make ride height changes, lots of advantages.
Old 01-18-2010 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DanZ28
That hoop hanging down is for jacking and also for tieing down the car.
Very cool, I like it!

Thanks for the other info as well.
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
Coil overs are legal for stock suspension classes now. Look under 99.9% of the mustangs they all have coil overs on the back of the housing, it's accepted now.
Are you sure about this?

I guess I will take your word for it.

Thanks
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Are you sure about this?

I guess I will take your word for it.

Thanks
as a few of us around here say, the only time it matters is if you win.
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where are the mounting points for a coil over set up? Anywhere? Basically, fab up your own upper and lower mounts?
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We have coilovers that mount in the stock shock location.
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Originally Posted by ATVracr
We have coilovers that mount in the stock shock location.
the rear coil overs i've seen mount on the back side of the housing.
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Originally Posted by tee-boy
the rear coil overs i've seen mount on the back side of the housing.
-- at least on a mustang
Old 01-18-2010 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ATVracr
We have coilovers that mount in the stock shock location.
You must have to beef that up?

Is that stud strong enough to carry the weight of the entire back of the car and dampen motion too?
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
You must have to beef that up?

Is that stud strong enough to carry the weight of the entire back of the car and dampen motion too?
http://autofabcart.net/82-2003fbodyr...onversion.aspx
This is what we used .... didnt have to do anything but bolt it in.
Had it for 2 years now, no problems.

Webought the Afco double adj. shocks and springs from Madman. He gave us some starting point for the shocks and they were right on from the get go.


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