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Old 08-12-2010, 01:19 AM
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How much power until you really need to start worrying about some sort of scatter shield? If you're not running a TB and making serious power is it still something that needs to be addressed?
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You should have the shield on as soon as you put the tranny in the car. If you've ever seen a drum explode and what it does to a car, you'd understand.

Parts come right thru the floor AT YOU..... it's not pretty.
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^ Yes, it needs to be addressed.
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yeah I've been afraid of that ever since i got the th400 installed. There is no scatter shield, and i am pretty damn scared of ever racing it hard without one on..
In the end its my mistake since i didn't research it enough, but the last thing i want to do right now is drop a f***ing tranny.
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I spoke with one of the baddest transmission shops out there and he told me for a 3300 lb 900 rwhp car on 28'' tires and only going to the track maybe every other weekend he didnt feel a jw bell was nessecary. he said if it was a big tire car that was gona see tire shake with 1300+ hp and racing every week it would be a must
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lt1badbird, I've seen it happen on cars with half that power. Repeated launches, especially on transbrakes, are hard on stuff. Granted, that is his opinion, but I'd do it for the safety aspect.

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Old 08-13-2010, 03:00 PM
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This is the bell everyone is using on their LSx blocks right? Even though it doesn't use one of the bolts..

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/JPT-92451/
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Originally Posted by LTFOUR
This is the bell everyone is using on their LSx blocks right? Even though it doesn't use one of the bolts..

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/JPT-92451/
that looks like it

i just got my CSR shield in today good looking piece, now i just gotta grind down the parts on the trans to make it fit, also what is everybody running for a overflow system on this trans?
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so the old bellhousing has to get machined off of the 400 and this one bolts on? how much would a process like this cost to have swapped.

so id want a bell housing,tci flex plate and then that brace right?

my car will have 700ish whp and i want to run a trans brake, it might see track time 5 times a year with drag radials for the time being as i want to keep the car streetable


im real new to 400's and trying to get everything right if im doing a swap this winter.

thanks guys
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The trans shop I use included the price of cutting the stock bell off to put on the ultra bell.
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did you get the trans in yet? that shield can be a pain the worst bolt is the second driver side. if anybody thats reading this has went threw this is the only option dropping the motor or cutting a access point?


Originally Posted by trans2000am
that looks like it

i just got my CSR shield in today good looking piece, now i just gotta grind down the parts on the trans to make it fit, also what is everybody running for a overflow system on this trans?
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I've got a flexplate shield which wasn't too bad, which blankets are people using? Deist, stroud?
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I'd buy a stroud. Deist works too, I have just been very happy with everything from Stroud I've bought over the years.
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Originally Posted by LTFOUR

The trans shop insists that I don't need an Ultra Bell and I should go with the CSR shield.
I broke both of the two top mounting ears off my TH400 last year with only 8 passes on it.

I'll have to disagree with your trans shop...
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Here's what can happen when a trans blows up...
Luckily Frank had a shield on his trans.
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Yeouch!
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im fighting the csr shield right now. the problem is the shift cable and the tunnel. can someone give me some insight as to how this will work. if i had to do it over agian i would get a jw or some others you guys are talking about. csr shield has been nothing but head aches in this car one problem after another
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Shift cable, just trim the chield a little bit, tunnel it's gonna rub some, unless ya hammer it up a little bit.
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thanks jl ill try it out proly tomorrow
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I don't have a picture of my old shield, but I trimmed it a little bit by the cable with a dremel, and I also had to do the same where the cooler lines were. Once I did that it went on like a glove

If you can, get it on the tranny out of the car, so you can see where it needs to be worked, take care of it then get it back in the car. With the car as high up as you can get it, put a board and a jack on the front of the oil pan and lift it some, so it will tile backwards, that should help too. Or, if you have a motor plate, I'd put a chain on the motor, and unbolt the motor and lower it in the car so it's resting on the k member, then you should have a ton of room to get it bolted up to the motor.

Couple tricks I've found to work over the years.


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