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Old 06-20-2011, 10:40 AM
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I used the Odyssey for track days only, and a regular battery for street driving. It always maintained 12v sitting on the shelf. Finally crapped out after 5 years, which I cant complain about. It was nice taking 20-25 lbs off the front end.

No way would I use one of those as an every day battery. My factory alarm will kill a regular battery in no time, and I cant imagine one of those holding up on cold mornings, etc.

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Old 06-21-2011, 07:46 AM
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A couple of thoughts:

Heat will hurt a lithium battery much faster than cold. The optimum storage temp for lithium batts is near freezing. Relocating the battery to the trunk, or even under the driver's seat, is a good idea and will also help weight distribution. On cold mornings, you can just turn on the radio/headlights/whatever for a minute to get the "juice flowing"--the partial discharge will heat up the battery and aid cranking.

Lithium batteries self-discharge much slower than a regular battery. Besides that, in a DD, you're recharging it from the alternator every time you turn it on. Cars that have a high parasitic draw and sit for several weeks on end will probably need to be topped off before you, or kept on a float charger (NOT a trickle charger).

A properly-sized lithium battery that is charged and cared for properly should be as, if not more reliable than a conventional battery. It is a different chemistry, and it has different needs. Charges in an hour, too.
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move battery to the back... help the rear%
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Old 06-24-2011, 11:26 PM
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I can still read the sticker on that Deka, I was under the hood the other day. 275 cold cranking amps. Don't know, I have a underdrive pulley on the car, daily drive it. Doesn't get too cold in FL but starts the car right up even in the winter. It has been in there over two years. Just my second thought on the mess. Motor is around 11:1, some cheap Duralast starter from Autozone.
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Old 07-01-2011, 08:44 AM
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I found some info on the 11.5lb braille vs the pc680 at the middle of this page http://shop.edoperformance.com/brail...ry-p-9136.html

Im gonna order one and try it out.
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Old 07-01-2011, 09:46 PM
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The hawker/oddesy,dynabatt, and there another line are all the same. I know a local Evo shop they uses all 3 and buy them buy the skid. Some are 13 and other are 15 its if they have the metal liner for heat (some motorcylces are close to pipes). Thsats why that link has the weight diffrent, but its all the same battery. The PC680 (m) is the heavier one and you can (could) get it without the liner and save the 2 pounds. Thats they the Dyabatt was. My 1st PC680 I bought form battermart.com 5 years ago I got it without the liner and it was 13.7 or somthing.The car I used that in I sold (still working). Got hawker only comes with the metal liner and was over 15, 15.5 I think. (with the brass post)

Ya found this in the search quick, just a heads up if guys didnt know about this. But these used to be $110, $95 on sale a few years ago I remember it was used 110 shipped. If you gona pay $160 get the brail anyway.

http://www.batterymart.com/p-odyssey-pc680-battery.html
Shipping Weight: 14.25 lbs
# Odyssey PC680 Drycell Battery
# Without Metal Jacket


http://www.portablepower.com/odyssey_pc680-p-890.html
Odyssey PC680MJ
Shipping Weight: 15.4 lbs
Notes: For extreme environments. Harley full-dresser and Goldwing under seat mount w/metal jacket,
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Originally Posted by studderin View Post
The hawker/oddesy,dynabatt, and there another line are all the same. I know a local Evo shop they uses all 3 and buy them buy the skid. Some are 13 and other are 15 its if they have the metal liner for heat (some motorcylces are close to pipes). Thsats why that link has the weight diffrent, but its all the same battery. The PC680 (m) is the heavier one and you can (could) get it without the liner and save the 2 pounds. Thats they the Dyabatt was. My 1st PC680 I bought form battermart.com 5 years ago I got it without the liner and it was 13.7 or somthing.The car I used that in I sold (still working). Got hawker only comes with the metal liner and was over 15, 15.5 I think. (with the brass post)

Ya found this in the search quick, just a heads up if guys didnt know about this. But these used to be $110, $95 on sale a few years ago I remember it was used 110 shipped. If you gona pay $160 get the brail anyway.

http://www.batterymart.com/p-odyssey-pc680-battery.html
Shipping Weight: 14.25 lbs
# Odyssey PC680 Drycell Battery
# Without Metal Jacket


http://www.portablepower.com/odyssey_pc680-p-890.html
Odyssey PC680MJ
Shipping Weight: 15.4 lbs
Notes: For extreme environments. Harley full-dresser and Goldwing under seat mount w/metal jacket,

Excellent info thanks!
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Does anyone have experience with the lithium batteries?

I know they're super pricey, but some weigh as little as 5 pounds!

Would they be a direct bolt on?

How long would they last in a daily driver?

http://lithiumpros.com/products/performance-street/
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Originally Posted by studderin View Post
http://www.batterymart.com/p-odyssey-pc680-battery.html
Shipping Weight: 14.25 lbs
# Odyssey PC680 Drycell Battery
# Without Metal Jacket
Thanks for that info!

Could this battery be used with the stock hold-down?
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Whoa! It'd be an extra $400 to lose 10 lbs. over the Oddyesy. Madness!
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To everyone with the PC680, how do you guys mount it in stock location? Does the stock mounting hardware work, or is there a separate bracket I need to buy?
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Old 10-12-2011, 11:40 AM
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Just received the PC680 and installed in my 02 SS. Worked great with the stock mounting hardware, just had to turn it on its side. The stock battery cables were barely long enough because of the changed orientation, but it worked out in the end!

Optima yellow top battery.. 33.x pounds
Odyssey PC680... 14.4 pounds

In my case, this was a bolt-in 19 pound weight loss for $130.

I ordered from battery-mart and received it in about a week.

Thanks for the info guys!
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reviving an OLD ONE lol ... but i have searched & can't seem to find a definitive answer ... but will these wally worlds work fine for at-the-track-only use? meaning installing it only once at the track, driving to & from with your regular battery ??
http://www.walmart.com/ip/EverStart-...ttery/16795215
... that's just one, but the have like six or seven ranging between 4 & 15 lbs.
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Yes I believe they will work fine. Only downside would be I dont think any of those are sealed, whereas the odyssey and my XS Power are totally sealed AGM batteries.
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4 View Post
Yes I believe they will work fine. Only downside would be I dont think any of those are sealed, whereas the odyssey and my XS Power are totally sealed AGM batteries.
01ss thanks man you've answered a few of my question threads now if i recall correctly .... power sx oooh man yes i'm REALLY liking those but dam do you pay for em lol (i know i know not super expensive but ya know!). my point being that the wally worlds range from like between 30 to 50 bucks so if they work i may just try one & post results or something - think im gonna try the 10lb one what the heck!
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I'm using the XS Power S925. Works great, never had issues not starting.
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Originally Posted by SkWiDsTyLe321 View Post
01ss thanks man you've answered a few of my question threads now if i recall correctly .... power sx oooh man yes i'm REALLY liking those but dam do you pay for em lol (i know i know not super expensive but ya know!). my point being that the wally worlds range from like between 30 to 50 bucks so if they work i may just try one & post results or something - think im gonna try the 10lb one what the heck!
The Odyssey and XS are more like 15lbs. I would be shooting for one in that range in the higher dollar version (yellow box I think). That's probably gonna put you closer to 100 bucks if I could guess. I run large AGMs in all my ATVs (for extended winching duties) and I also outfit the kids powerwheels with them for a very extended run time, stock PW batteries blow for run time. An alternative would be a Big Crank (Deka rebrand) from BatteryMart. I've run several big cranks in the past and still do currently. Might be worth a shot to save you some dough but the XS power is only about 150 from Summit......

Big Crank:
http://www.batterymart.com/c-big-crank-batteries.html

XS Power, $135

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/xsp-s680


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Here's my pc680 just layed on it's side with adapters and held down with a old piece of seat belt
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Originally Posted by T6Rocket View Post

No way would I use one of those as an every day battery. My factory alarm will kill a regular battery in no time, and I cant imagine one of those holding up on cold mornings, etc.

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This is a very good point. As we all know PCMs + the alarm pull power while a car sits. Here's how I address the issue since my car sits for extended periods.....1. float charger, i previously ran plug in versions but grew tired of them on everything (mower, ATVs, spare batteries etc) and have switched to solar floats for convenience. My was was direct wire it in to the fuse panel on the driver's side. I have a small pigtail that hangs out on the dash, when I drive I disconnect the small panel and toss it in the back seat. 2. a key fob activates the alarm when you press lock, manually locking the doors does not. So when I get out I shut the door then manually lock it with the key so the alarm isnt set. Less power draw on the small battery while the car sits.
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I've used lightweight battery. Starts car fine. If you use a bottle heater or leave the door open for 3 minutes they are dead!
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