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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 11:44 AM
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plus any car faster than twelves is supposed to have a roll bar, so are u saying anycar faster than twelves shouldnt be street driven?
Old Dec 11, 2011 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by pontiacrazy
i grew up riding in my dads 10 second 68 firebird, and the way the cage was set up we never had to worry, and to whoever made the comment that a roll cage car shouldnt have a back seat should be slapped
Any pics of the 68? My dads got a 68 Black/Black 468/700R4 just a cruzer but its a beautiful car!
Old Dec 11, 2011 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
ABSOLUTELY NOT SAFE PERIOD!

That cage, if you get in an accident, is going to be a nightmare to try to get the kid otu of the car, and then what if there's a fire?

What if the car is side swiped, and you get pushed into a guard rail, you can't get out thru your door car's against a guard rail and the car that pushed you into it is on the other door... and a fire breaks out? You going to be able to climb thru the cage to get him out thru a window?

What if you get in an accident and the jaws of life are needed, and then they have to spend 5 more minutes trying to get to the kid becuase the cage is in the way and his bleeding doesn't get stopped in time?

Absolutely not a safe idea in any way, padding or not, helmet or not, etc.etc.

If you have a 2nd front seat in the car (I assume you do) and when he's big enough to get buckled into that with the 2nd 5 pt harness, then that's a different story. I'd still make the kid wear a helmet. Kid will probably love that anyway.

Back seat, or a child seat in a car with a cage, no way period.
This is a very good point.. Gives you alot to think about... And my kids are small 2 and 3 and love race cars also.. I just will mainly have them in the car to cruise to car shows and stuff like that.. But like said above anything can happean.
Old Dec 11, 2011 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by subhumanzz
Is this a joke?
No not really just trying to see what everyone who has cages does....
Old Dec 11, 2011 | 01:51 PM
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I'm not seeing how a properly built, certified cage in a 2 door car (fbody) could not intrude on entering the rear seats. The cross bar on the main hoop will be right in the way, not to mention any kicker braces that people usually put in that runs to the transmission tunnel, just seems like more of a pain in the *** to me.

I'll probably leave the back seats in my car just as a novelty to have the appearance of al "full interior" car, but that's about the only purpose it will serve.
Old Dec 11, 2011 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
ABSOLUTELY NOT SAFE PERIOD!

That cage, if you get in an accident, is going to be a nightmare to try to get the kid otu of the car, and then what if there's a fire?

What if the car is side swiped, and you get pushed into a guard rail, you can't get out thru your door car's against a guard rail and the car that pushed you into it is on the other door... and a fire breaks out? You going to be able to climb thru the cage to get him out thru a window?

What if you get in an accident and the jaws of life are needed, and then they have to spend 5 more minutes trying to get to the kid becuase the cage is in the way and his bleeding doesn't get stopped in time?

Absolutely not a safe idea in any way, padding or not, helmet or not, etc.etc.

If you have a 2nd front seat in the car (I assume you do) and when he's big enough to get buckled into that with the 2nd 5 pt harness, then that's a different story. I'd still make the kid wear a helmet. Kid will probably love that anyway.

Back seat, or a child seat in a car with a cage, no way period.
Always pros with the cons...

What if you get t-boned and the cage saves his life? A car that would otherwise be crushed inwards is not.

What if your in a rollover scenario and a stock vehicle would have crushed the roof in, but your bar didnt allow the roof to collapse and saved his life?

What if your rear ended and the car would have been crushed inward and hit the gas tank resulting in a fire but the cage prevented it?

Personally I cant live my life scared of what if's.
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Originally Posted by pontiacrazy
i grew up riding in my dads 10 second 68 firebird, and the way the cage was set up we never had to worry, and to whoever made the comment that a roll cage car shouldnt have a back seat should be slapped
^ This. My sister and I used to ride in the back of my dad's blown, BBC 68 Camaro all the time. Most of the time without seatbelts. It's got a 6pt cage and full interior. The worst thing that ever happened was bashing my head on the rear down bars getting in or out lol
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My kids still want to ride in the car. I was looking at getting passenger and driver swing outs along with the rear bar swing outs. Its not NHRA legal but gives you safety when racing and the ability to pull it out when the kids are in back.
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Originally Posted by pontiacrazy
plus any car faster than twelves is supposed to have a roll bar, so are u saying anycar faster than twelves shouldnt be street driven?
Your information is very innaccurate, I would suggest you do some research before coming in and spouting off.
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Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
Always pros with the cons...

What if you get t-boned and the cage saves his life? A car that would otherwise be crushed inwards is not.

What if your in a rollover scenario and a stock vehicle would have crushed the roof in, but your bar didnt allow the roof to collapse and saved his life?

What if your rear ended and the car would have been crushed inward and hit the gas tank resulting in a fire but the cage prevented it?

Personally I cant live my life scared of what if's.
Do what you want, but the cage totally removes all the safety of the car as required by government law. The cars are crash tested for these purposes. Cages are required for drag racing, as the liklyhood of a flip over collission is substantially higher, and with the modifications people do to the cars in an effort for weight reduction, the factory safety equipment is usually no longer present.

The resk, by far outweigh's any possible increase of a small child's safety in the event of a crash.

We all know a 5 pt harness is safer then a lap and shoulder belt, but there's a reason they aren't allowed either.... makes it too hard for an emergency person to get you out of the car..... it's things like that which you aren't thinking about.
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Originally Posted by Orange99Z
^ This. My sister and I used to ride in the back of my dad's blown, BBC 68 Camaro all the time. Most of the time without seatbelts. It's got a 6pt cage and full interior. The worst thing that ever happened was bashing my head on the rear down bars getting in or out lol
That certainly doesn't make it a good idea. You were lucky.
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This topic has been covered enough, and there's no reason to continue it. Both sides have been heard.... make your decisions people, and live with the results, either way.




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