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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 01:18 AM
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Alright so my times have surpassed the 11.99 so its time for a roll bar

I will be ordering the comp engineering 6 point cage from summit racing along with some kirky sfi padding in a few days

my questions are about this jig notching.. installation.. and painting

is the jig notching a big ordeal? i have a friends father who is a welder for a power plant who will weld it for me.. but as for the jig notching, its simple measure and cut right?

obviously to install ill have to remove all of the interior, but does anyone have the comp engineering style 6 point? i dont think it has the low slung sides.. so is this something i can bend? or will that be again nhra rules to alter a roll bar like that?

last.. how did you paint yours? did you paint it after welding it together and then installed it into the car, or did you install it.. tape everything off and then paint it while it after it was completely installed?

thanks for the help
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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 08:39 AM
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Jig notching is EVERYTHING. It amazes me companies offer bars without it. Notching the bars yourself is not for the faint of heart without the proper tools.

Why not go with the Wolfe 6-point bar with the low slung sides, jig-notched? Mine fit perfectly with no problems. And they are a site sponsor, too.

I painted my bar when it was already installed and in the car.
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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 08:53 AM
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You pretty much have to paint it after it is installed. Notching isn't bad if you have a die grinder with a good carbide bit. It would be quicker and easier with a tubing notcher. It all depends if you want to spend the money or do the work yourself to save some.
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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by RamAir95TA
Jig notching is EVERYTHING. It amazes me companies offer bars without it. Notching the bars yourself is not for the faint of heart without the proper tools.

Why not go with the Wolfe 6-point bar with the low slung sides, jig-notched? Mine fit perfectly with no problems. And they are a site sponsor, too.

I painted my bar when it was already installed and in the car.

^^^^^^^What he said ^^^^^^^
I have installed numerous roll bars but never in a 4th gen so take my advice for what it is worth. You don't need a tubing notcher but it will certainly make life a ton easier, fish mouthing the tubing ends with grinder takes a little skill. Installing a roll bar is not for the faint of heart - it will require a decent degree of skill and patience. It will save a ton of heartache if you can get a kit that is pre-notched. I have always painted the bars after install. Follow the rules closely - my local track could almost care less but if you'd ever take your car somewhere else they may care and you want it to be correct with nice welds.
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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 10:41 AM
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Well id like to get a wolfe bolt in. But i would like to keep it under $500..
But Wolfe is $480 shipped with their offer right now (Mild steel weld in everything standard and jig notched)
Id have to buy a case of busch light for my friends dad, and as for paint, ill probably just spray can it since most will be covered by padding anyways

If i go that route, i could still keep it under $600 and probably get it painted right
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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 11:45 AM
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Don't be fooled by the notching thinking it will go in easily. You will have to finish fitting it even on the notched end.
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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 12:00 PM
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I noticed you said 11.99, NHRA rules don't require a bar until 11.49.
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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by zracer323
I noticed you said 11.99, NHRA rules don't require a bar until 11.49.
^^^ this.

Save your money up and buy a nice rollbar from a company that is known for a well-fitting product. I'm not putting CE down, but there is a multitude of testimonies about the Wolfe 6pt on this board. CE? Not so much..
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Old Sep 24, 2012 | 05:47 PM
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Well my track kicked me Out saying 11.99.. Which is like 8 or 9 something 1/8th miles
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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Jadedbird
Well my track kicked me Out saying 11.99.. Which is like 8 or 9 something 1/8th miles
I believe the 1/8th mile cutoff is 7.35. Bring an NHRA rulebook with you next time if they try to kick you out.
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Old Sep 26, 2012 | 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Jadedbird
Well my track kicked me Out saying 11.99.. Which is like 8 or 9 something 1/8th miles
If it is an NHRA track then it changed a few years back in the rule book. I would show them the rule book. My local track didn't know it changed until I showed them the book.

IHRA I think is still 11.99

http://www.bremertonraceway.com/2012_NHRA_RuleBook.pdf
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ROLL BAR
Roll bar mandatory in all cars (including T-tops) running 11.00
(*7.00) to 11.49 (*7.35), in convertibles running 11.00 (*7.00) to
13.49 (*8.25), and in all dune-buggy-type vehicles running 12.00
(*7.50) seconds and slower. Permitted in all cars. See General
Regulations 4:10, 10:6

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Old Sep 26, 2012 | 07:58 AM
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As stated above, if you are attempting a roll bar install yourself, the extra money spent on a good PROVEN product will do wonders. for photos of completed installs so you can make an informed decision. Just like previously said; not knocking Competition Engineering, but make sure you dot the i's before buying.

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Old Sep 27, 2012 | 01:36 PM
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I think lll just pony up the money for a wolfe rollbar
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Old Sep 28, 2012 | 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Jadedbird
I think lll just pony up the money for a wolfe rollbar
Good plan.
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Old Sep 28, 2012 | 11:02 AM
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Im just trying to figure how/what color im gonna paint it
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Old Sep 29, 2012 | 09:17 AM
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They can come powder coated black unless you order it bare and want to do it yourself.
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Old Sep 29, 2012 | 12:51 PM
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Wolfe does? Well thats super badass
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Old Sep 29, 2012 | 08:08 PM
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You can always buy a Wolfe bolt-in if it fits your speed requirement. A buddy of mine and I installed one in my garage in about 4-5 hours.







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That Wolfe bolt in looks great - what et is a bolt in roll bar good for?
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Old Sep 29, 2012 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by high impact
That Wolfe bolt in looks great - what et is a bolt in roll bar good for?
10.00 in the quarter mile, as soon as you go 9.99 or over 135mph technically you need an 8.50 cert, lic, etc.

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