Is it possible to run a 2.0 60....
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Re: Is it possible to run a 2.0 60.... McRat you are right, tracks do vary, alot of us had our best nights up in Orlando at the Speedworld vs. our home town Moroso<---or Moro-slo!!
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But we are talking M6 here, atleast I am....
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But we are talking M6 here, atleast I am....
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From: Gainesville, Florida # of drag strips runs: ?!?!?
Re: Is it possible to run a 2.0 60.... I got 2.05-2.07 out of mine (only mod was K & N) with 3.23 gearing on 245/16 gsc's at about 27 psi, car ran 13.45 at 103.50 best in that configuration. I have gotten 1.82 on 275/60/15 radials (not drag radials either) on my nova, so that says a lot for possibly getting killer 60s on radials, just need a good suspension.
Racer, no kidding, moroso with the humidity there can make a car that hooks great at other tracks spin like crazy.
Derek
Racer, no kidding, moroso with the humidity there can make a car that hooks great at other tracks spin like crazy.
Derek
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Re: Is it possible to run a 2.0 60.... Great information everyone. Generally the colder it is outside the more difficulty everyone will have hooking up with Nittos. That is why it is very important to do a 'nice' burnout on them. Erin, you may have seen what happened to me last Saturday. I did my burnout on my ET Streets and got up to the line. The guy next to me obviously was new to racing because he staged about 10 feet in front of the beams. The track officials came over to him and finally he realized his mistake. By the time the kid backed up and realized what he was supposed to do, I would say 3-4 minues went by. I was pissed! My ET Streets were now cold and I knew I would not hook. The lights turned and I nailed it, the *** end stepped out to the right and I had to get out of it for a second. The result was a 1.76 60 ft. I was very pissed because the car felt very strong on that run, except for the take-off. Surely it would have been another 12.1X run for me had I gotten my usual 1.72 60 ft. If that happens again you can bet I will back up and do another burnout, I paid my money and shouldn't have been penalized because a new-jack chose to not ask questions before he raced....Anyways back to my point, doing a nice burnout is 'very' important, even on ET Streets unless you have a lot of suspension work and a weak car....
As far as 60ft times, Mccrat is totally correct, comparing 60 ft times with people 1000 miles away is tough. ETown doesn't prep very well, surely not as good as Atco. A 2.10 60 ft at ETown could probably be a 1.95 at Atco.
As far as 60ft times, Mccrat is totally correct, comparing 60 ft times with people 1000 miles away is tough. ETown doesn't prep very well, surely not as good as Atco. A 2.10 60 ft at ETown could probably be a 1.95 at Atco.
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Re: Is it possible to run a 2.0 60.... MINTY, Minty, with an N... sorry about that. There is a guy with the handle Misty6 on LS1, I guess I am used to seeing that. Sorry- simple typo!!
Kenny- I didn't see that run, but I know what you mean. The guy next to me on one run didn't pull up far enough to trip the stage light, so I sat there for about a minute or so until someone told him to move up. Then he went too far, had to move back, had to move up again, back again... wonderful. All I could think about were my tires cooling down LOL The last time I was there on stock tires, the rear end of my car kicked out so bad, it scared the you know what out of me. That's when I decided I would do a real burnout LOL... anything to keep that from happening again.
But regardless, 1.7x 60's are impressive, especially having problems and still running a 1.7 60'.
It's one thing to be new at the track, but people should ask questions and find out what is the proper protocol before they decide to race. I remember seeing the one guy race off the end of the track because he didn't know when to stop!!! He ended up hitting the gravel at 110mph in a 300zx I believe. I guess he just missed those huge traps, and the what...3, 4 turnoffs? oops!
Kenny- I didn't see that run, but I know what you mean. The guy next to me on one run didn't pull up far enough to trip the stage light, so I sat there for about a minute or so until someone told him to move up. Then he went too far, had to move back, had to move up again, back again... wonderful. All I could think about were my tires cooling down LOL The last time I was there on stock tires, the rear end of my car kicked out so bad, it scared the you know what out of me. That's when I decided I would do a real burnout LOL... anything to keep that from happening again.
But regardless, 1.7x 60's are impressive, especially having problems and still running a 1.7 60'.
It's one thing to be new at the track, but people should ask questions and find out what is the proper protocol before they decide to race. I remember seeing the one guy race off the end of the track because he didn't know when to stop!!! He ended up hitting the gravel at 110mph in a 300zx I believe. I guess he just missed those huge traps, and the what...3, 4 turnoffs? oops!
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From: Evansville, IN
Re: Is it possible to run a 2.0 60.... I've managed to cut a 1.83 on stock tires at 28 psi. That's with an a4, yank 3000 converter, and 2.73 gears. I'd post the timeslip but my kitten decided to use them all as a bathroom before I could scan any of them.
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Re: Is it possible to run a 2.0 60.... Yes it is possible, I cut consistant 1.9s with a manual trans SS (LT1 car) and did that at the ripe old age of 17 <img src="images/icons/smile.gif" border="0">
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Re: Is it possible to run a 2.0 60.... Well I have only made 5 runs with my new 01 Formula, with the 245/50-16 GSC's, and every run is in the 2.0X 60ft's. 2.03(best)-2.08(worst), but this is at an excellent track. On the street they just spin anywhere in 1st gear(A4), from a stop or a roll.
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Re: Is it possible to run a 2.0 60.... I've managed a couple of 1.9's on the stock F1's with about 18 PSI in them. They really suck for track tires... <img src="images/icons/frown.gif" border="0">
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Re: Is it possible to run a 2.0 60.... I got a 1.95 in my old 99 T/A M6 on stock GSC's and stock gear (3660 lb race weight). It did, however, have a few minor suspension mods (LCA and Panhards, but also lowering springs). I didn't have a lot of time to experiment before I sold the car, but it seemed the best launches were when I launched just off-idle, and let that wonderful low-mid range power pull me out through first gear.
In other words...I'd bring the motor to about 1500 rpm, dead-drop the clutch and nail the gas. Just a little chirp and off I'd go.
As for Nitto's...if done correctly, they can REALLY work. Not an F-body, but I have a friend that has gone mid 1.7's - consistently - on 17" Nitto's, with a 99 Cobra...had the IRS, no less. He runs 15-17 psi, and does a really good burnout - much like a slick.
The comparison likely isn't very good though, as the T45 has a 3.37 1st gear, and when combined with his 4.30's, give him quite an advantage on launch (even with a 3525 lb race weight).
Anyways, I hope some of this is useful.
In other words...I'd bring the motor to about 1500 rpm, dead-drop the clutch and nail the gas. Just a little chirp and off I'd go.
As for Nitto's...if done correctly, they can REALLY work. Not an F-body, but I have a friend that has gone mid 1.7's - consistently - on 17" Nitto's, with a 99 Cobra...had the IRS, no less. He runs 15-17 psi, and does a really good burnout - much like a slick.
The comparison likely isn't very good though, as the T45 has a 3.37 1st gear, and when combined with his 4.30's, give him quite an advantage on launch (even with a 3525 lb race weight).
Anyways, I hope some of this is useful.
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From: Decatur, IL
Re: Is it possible to run a 2.0 60.... My best in my '99 was a 2.07. Bone stock with 17" OE wheels and tires and a 6spd. This was at a mediocre track. I've seen automatics with 1.87's on GS-C's at Norwalk - usually a better prepped track.
Re: Is it possible to run a 2.0 60.... [quote]Originally posted by Jacobi:
<strong>Look at my sig...remember that 2.1 is on all season rsa's!
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Here this should make everyone feel better:
My best 60ft 2.7 on GSC's
<strong>Look at my sig...remember that 2.1 is on all season rsa's!
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Here this should make everyone feel better:
My best 60ft 2.7 on GSC's
