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Old Dec 16, 2001 | 11:18 PM
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this is just a thought....dyno numbers mean ****.....track numbers are what its about....thats all
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Old Dec 17, 2001 | 06:05 AM
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Amen Minty!! I've never had any car of mine dyno'd, it'd be a cool thing to have, but last time I checked, we didn't care what dyno #s people feed us when bench racing. Let's have some ET's and quit the <img src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" border="0" alt="[bullshit]" />

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Old Dec 17, 2001 | 07:27 AM
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I tell you what, if we ran dyno numbers down the track, my wimpy little 310 RWHP would get clobbered mercilessly over here. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
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Old Dec 17, 2001 | 07:45 AM
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Old Dec 17, 2001 | 07:46 AM
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They can be good for testing changes to your combination, but I believe there are too many variables when it comes to comparing numbers from one car to another, especially when they're both in different parts of the country. I dyno'd my pig once awhile back with less than stellar numbers. I'll probably do so again soon since I've changed cams, because I'd like to see where the HP/torque peaks are at now, so I have a little better idea of where to shift the car. Regardless, I'd bet my car still makes nowhere near the 420+ RWHP numbers I see from slower cars than mine. Definately no dyno queen here <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
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Old Dec 17, 2001 | 10:18 AM
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Its all about the et. The dyno is a great tool and if used properly can help you lower et dramatically. Otherwise it can lead to a bunch of <img src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" border="0" alt="[bullshit]" /> when people start "assuming" what the car will run based on Thier dyno #'s.
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Old Dec 17, 2001 | 10:27 AM
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Food for thought:

My car dynoed 40RWHP LESS with the A4 conversion
BUT ran almost a second faster in the 1/4 with only half throttle in first gear <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">

With a full throttle launch 1.3 seconds easily quicker.
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Old Dec 17, 2001 | 01:24 PM
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I think it can give a reaonable comparison between two cars that weigh the same(or you can calculate small differences to get a good idea)..it seems to be even better with a 6m since there is no variance with a converter.

I hope I do my 428rwhp justice in the 1/4 mile <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">

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Old Dec 17, 2001 | 04:29 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by Chris ARE 360:
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My car dynoed 40RWHP LESS with the A4 conversion
BUT ran almost a second faster in the 1/4 with only half throttle in first gear <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
Chris</strong><hr></blockquote>

That just proves you couldn't drive for sh*t!!

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Old Dec 17, 2001 | 04:41 PM
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Bob your 310 runs circles around my 277hp dyno.... dont even ask <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> dyno doesnt like my car.. which is why i will never dyno again lol


[quote]Originally posted by Bob Cosby:
<strong>I tell you what, if we ran dyno numbers down the track, my wimpy little 310 RWHP would get clobbered mercilessly over here. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0"> </strong><hr></blockquote>
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Old Dec 17, 2001 | 04:45 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by GeorgeC:
<strong>... but I believe there are too many variables when it comes to comparing numbers from one car to another, especially when they're both in different parts of the country. </strong><hr></blockquote>

They could be across the street from each othr and give completly different results depending on the operator's knowledge. Theroretically though they should 'correct' to the same everywhere.

Track numbers also vary wildly across the country. My personal best is a 12.0 @ 119 in Denver (5800 foot). I don't bother posting corrected times since people don't want to hear corrected track times <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
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Old Dec 17, 2001 | 06:35 PM
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Dyno numbers are simply a tool to analyze and trouble shoot a specfic car. And ETs are simply numbers to analyze specific car and driver combos ...

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Because the only thing that anyone is ever really ever going to give a rats butt about is who crossed the line first

That's why they call it racin' <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
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Old Dec 19, 2001 | 08:53 PM
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come on greg be nice to bos if all he had were his track times he'd be in very deep $hit.hahahaahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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Old Dec 19, 2001 | 08:59 PM
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Traction is somewhat here now with these nittos... <img src="gr_tounge.gif" border="0">

We will see come spring time...
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Old Dec 19, 2001 | 09:45 PM
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what george said <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
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Old Dec 19, 2001 | 09:52 PM
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It's can be a useful tuning tool though. But I agree completely. Just cause you put it to the ground, doesn't mean you move it down the track.
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Old Dec 19, 2001 | 11:48 PM
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That's very true Larry. But aren't you glad to have the numbers that you do?

The fact is that we're talking about apples and oranges. Track #'s reflect the performance of the car. That is the combined preformance and efficiency of the drivetrain, the chassis and the driver. Dyno #'s reflect the performance of the drivetrain. That is the combined performance and efficiency of the motor, the trans and the rearend. AND BIG NUMBERS ROCK!

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Old Dec 19, 2001 | 11:55 PM
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BTW I'm running 12's and laying down high 1.6 60fts in a pickup with only 260 rwhp.
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Old Dec 20, 2001 | 12:11 AM
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True, you can't race a dyno. You build an engine for horsepower; you build a car for racing.

But then again, you can't go by "best ET" either.

It's who you can whip-*** on at YOUR track. If you've got a 10 sec slip in your toolbox, it doesn't mean you're going to whip someone at the track. It's who crosses the line first. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
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