best 6-speed drivers?
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best 6-speed drivers? i was wondering who are the best 6-speed drivers on here? and, if they could, give me some help with launching my 99 Z. i went to the track a few weeks ago with the local car club and could only get a 1.97 on 17" nittos and a 13.37@105. i will try to experiment with my burnouts next time. i was doing 5-7 sec. burnouts and shifting at 5900 on the tach. any tips?
mods are: mti clear lid, slp dual/dual (off a buddies firehawk), 17" SS rims w/ nitto, home-ported maf ends.
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mike
mods are: mti clear lid, slp dual/dual (off a buddies firehawk), 17" SS rims w/ nitto, home-ported maf ends.
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thanks,
mike
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Re: best 6-speed drivers? [quote]Originally posted by Trace:
<strong>Nineball. </strong><hr></blockquote>
They ask for best driver, not best sandbagger!
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<strong>Nineball. </strong><hr></blockquote>
They ask for best driver, not best sandbagger!
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Re: best 6-speed drivers? Check out Moose on here and on www.easternfbody.com. He can shift faster than a A4.
Previously my best was a 2.25 60ft with a 13.45 on DR's. Moose got in my car and ran 13.08 with a 2.01 60ft. <img src="graemlins/camaro.gif" border="0" alt="[Chevrolet]" />
Previously my best was a 2.25 60ft with a 13.45 on DR's. Moose got in my car and ran 13.08 with a 2.01 60ft. <img src="graemlins/camaro.gif" border="0" alt="[Chevrolet]" />
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Re: best 6-speed drivers? Moose is a good driver, and I'm sure Tony is also. Moose was very consistent this past Saturday at Cecil, and I've heard Tony is too. If that is your criterion, then you've likely found two good candidates. However, neither of them powershift (not lifting the throttle). You might wanna look for someone that powershifts (perhaps Marc?).
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Re: best 6-speed drivers? Yea thats where I tend to forget on my bad runs...I'll accidently let off the gas in preperation for the finish... <img src="gr_emb.gif" border="0"> then I realize what I've done...
My best run to date is a 13.2@111 with a 2.460ft
On street tires
As soon as I get my tranny fixed, I'm going to the track spring time to crack off a few low 12 second passes...
My best run to date is a 13.2@111 with a 2.460ft
On street tires
As soon as I get my tranny fixed, I'm going to the track spring time to crack off a few low 12 second passes...
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Re: best 6-speed drivers? LOL Bob! Trust me, I shift fast enough that you can't tell I'm not powershifting. In fact, I recently ran four back to back runs, two speedshifting and two powershifting and the ETs were all within 0.01 of eachother. Believe me, I was truly hoping the powershifts would net me some new best ET but it wasn't the case.
BTW, on Autotap, my throttle % never hits 0, it usually drops to around 50% on the shifts. Guess that is like semi-powershifting huh? <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
How to launch a 6-speed on Nittos? Put the air pressure at 22-24 psi, do a burnout until they smoke plenty enough to see, and slip the clutch out. Yes, this is bad on the clutch, but it works. If your track is prepped halfway decent, it works better, but this slip method even worked for me on the streets where there is no prep. Hold the tach at around 3200-3500 rpm and slip that clutch out without giving it more throttle. Gotta train yourself to keep from mashing the pedal.
When do you mash the pedal? When you feel the weight has transferred to the rear of the car and the tires are hooked. Then floor it!
This will get you 1.80-1.82 short times if you do it right. Your clutch will hate you, especially if it is the stock one. But, your new best ET will be nice!
Tony
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BTW, on Autotap, my throttle % never hits 0, it usually drops to around 50% on the shifts. Guess that is like semi-powershifting huh? <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
How to launch a 6-speed on Nittos? Put the air pressure at 22-24 psi, do a burnout until they smoke plenty enough to see, and slip the clutch out. Yes, this is bad on the clutch, but it works. If your track is prepped halfway decent, it works better, but this slip method even worked for me on the streets where there is no prep. Hold the tach at around 3200-3500 rpm and slip that clutch out without giving it more throttle. Gotta train yourself to keep from mashing the pedal.
When do you mash the pedal? When you feel the weight has transferred to the rear of the car and the tires are hooked. Then floor it!
This will get you 1.80-1.82 short times if you do it right. Your clutch will hate you, especially if it is the stock one. But, your new best ET will be nice!
Tony
First M6 LS1 to run 11s on motor and radials.
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Re: best 6-speed drivers? Tony, I was told you couldnt drive your way out of a paper bag by some people who went to Kentucky. When i asked to see the video of your car running i was told that he taped over most of your runs because you miss gears like its going out of style. Whats up with that?
Re: best 6-speed drivers? You should hear Bob shift <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
Murder! Of course he has the parts to prove it <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
Murder! Of course he has the parts to prove it <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
Re: best 6-speed drivers? I'd have to vote for Jason99TA, Mike Hoffpauir, and Mike's dad, the late Jay Hoffpauir, as the three best 6 speed drivers I have ever seen. My husband isn't too bad either, but he doesn't get much practice <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
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Re: best 6-speed drivers? <-- Not an expert. Just the quickest bolt-on car at our track. That being said..
The higher you rev it, the quicker you will run. No debate. It ain't even close. Shifting at 5900 is costing you a couple tenths. You may even want to raise your limiter a couple of hundreds to avoid hitting it. Ideal shift point for a stock engine? 6300-6400. Oppss! That's past the limiter.
Launching? When you figure it out, please tell me! <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
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The higher you rev it, the quicker you will run. No debate. It ain't even close. Shifting at 5900 is costing you a couple tenths. You may even want to raise your limiter a couple of hundreds to avoid hitting it. Ideal shift point for a stock engine? 6300-6400. Oppss! That's past the limiter.
Launching? When you figure it out, please tell me! <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
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Re: best 6-speed drivers? Well I've got one more person I would nominate for best 6 speed driver, but he's not a member on this site. That would be SW, he's probably one of the best drivers I know period. <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[Burnout]" />
It ain't easy to drive a 6 speed Vette into the 9's!!!
It ain't easy to drive a 6 speed Vette into the 9's!!!
Re: best 6-speed drivers? The first person that comes to mind is Joe Kizzire. That man can shift! Joe has the A4 syndrome. The gas pedal stays on the floor through the entire run, INCLUDING shifts! <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[Burnout]" />
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Re: best 6-speed drivers? I managed to drive to a 13.019, 13.020, 13.019, 13.022, and another 13.020, two at 109mph and 3 at 110mph back to back my 1st time at the track. Just barly put in the clutch enough to bang quickly into the next gear right before you hit the rev limiter on each shift. For street tires, just pull totally around the water, and rev up the motor to 3,000 or so and drop the clutch to clean the tires off. I was only able to launch at 2,000rpms, or my tires went up in smoke. On nitto's or drag radials, rev the motor up to 4,000 or so, drop the clutch, floor it while moving your left foot to the brake. Do a burn out until you see a bit of smoke, or your tires won't be hot enough. At the track I was at, I was on street tires, and there was NO way to go around the water. So my front tires picked up water in the groves, and my rear tires followed that path. My best 60' time was 2.01, but I had to slam on the brakes cuz the car in the other lane was a 10 second car that went over to my lane before I was finished. I woulda had a 12.xx w/ only a lid and catback that run.
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Re: best 6-speed drivers? In first gear w/ the stock tach, I shifted at 5,900-6,000, and into 2nd, 3rd, and 4th at 6,200 or so. And yes, I shifted into 4th quit a bit before the line. Make sure you are still flooring it through the end of the trap. My track had enough space to safely bring it to over 125 if I wanted.
Re: best 6-speed drivers? [quote]Originally posted by Trevor D:
<strong>The first person that comes to mind is Joe Kizzire. That man can shift! Joe has the A4 syndrome. The gas pedal stays on the floor through the entire run, INCLUDING shifts! <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[Burnout]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
Yep, he gets my vote also. Too bad I didn't get to ride with him at Eunice last weekend...maybe next time, Joe, you can show me how a fast car launches <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
<strong>The first person that comes to mind is Joe Kizzire. That man can shift! Joe has the A4 syndrome. The gas pedal stays on the floor through the entire run, INCLUDING shifts! <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[Burnout]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
Yep, he gets my vote also. Too bad I didn't get to ride with him at Eunice last weekend...maybe next time, Joe, you can show me how a fast car launches <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
I can shift faster than you.
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Re: best 6-speed drivers? Thanks for the compliment Angie! I do agree that Joe Kizzire is the best I have seen. 95 Formula (Tim H) is very good as well.
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