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Old May 31, 2015 | 11:57 PM
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I'm looking for advice and suggestion, my Camaro lifts the front tires about a foot in the air for a few feet then as the front comes down, it unloads the rear suspension and it spins the tire a bit. Without switching to a heavier spring or double adjustable shock what can I do? Would adding more power and letting the front end carry the wheels out farther help? If I tighten up the front shock extension to slow the rise would that help to keep the front closer to the ground without hurting weight transfer?

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Strange single adjustable coilover w/ 275lb springs
Front shock is set a 3 clicks from full loose
Strange double adjustable rear shocks w/ 93-97 v6 springs
Rear compression is 3 clicks from full tight and extension is 5 clicks from tight
Rear Lca are in lowest hole possibly on the rear axle
MWC anti-roll bar
-3* pinion angle
Tires are Hoosier drag radials 17lbs of air

Here is a video in slow motion, at the end as the car begins to come down you can see the gap between car and track surface disappear.

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Old Jun 1, 2015 | 03:53 AM
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Looks like your close. IMO I would tighten the front a couple clicks to slow the rise if it is coming up too fast. Hard to tell in slow mo. Then loosen the back a few clicks on extension, to soften the hit. I've have never used double adjustables in the rear, only in the front, so Im not sure what the compression should be. Looks like the tires start to spin just after the hit. And that's what is unloading your suspension. It don't look like its going to take much.

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Old Jun 1, 2015 | 06:36 AM
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What torque arm are you using? Also, is your car stock height in the rear?
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Double adjustable front will help for sure, but you can tighten the front extension to slow the rise until the tire spins earlier. If the track surface will hold you maybe able to just put the LCA up one hole which will slow the hit a bit and stretch out the transfer. If this works then you should be able to apply more power as early as .5-.7 into the run.
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Old Jun 1, 2015 | 04:09 PM
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Try adding 2 clicks of compression on the rear and see what that does for you.
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Old Jun 1, 2015 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by poltergeist 02
What torque arm are you using? Also, is your car stock height in the rear?
It's a Midwest Chassis short arm with true dual crossmember. Yes it's pretty close to stock height. The v6 springs lowered it slightly

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Double adjustable front will help for sure, but you can tighten the front extension to slow the rise until the tire spins earlier. If the track surface will hold you maybe able to just put the LCA up one hole which will slow the hit a bit and stretch out the transfer. If this works then you should be able to apply more power as early as .5-.7 into the run.
I may be misunderstanding your first part about tire spin. Why would I want the tires to spin earlier? I don't want the tire to spin at all.

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Try adding 2 clicks of compression on the rear and see what that does for you.
If I tighten the rear compression completely wouldn't that cause the car to rotate up even more?
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Old Jun 2, 2015 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by RobsZ28
It's a Midwest Chassis short arm with true dual crossmember. Yes it's pretty close to stock height. The v6 springs lowered it slightly



I may be misunderstanding your first part about tire spin. Why would I want the tires to spin earlier? I don't want the tire to spin at all.


You have to have some weight transfer to stick the tire at the hit, but too much transfer is not gaining you any forward motion. The more firm front extension will slow the weight transfer and keep the nose from rising quite so fast, but at some point this may cause the tires to loose grip earlier in the run if you slow the transfer too much.

Move the lowers up one hole and tighten up the front shock extension a bit. Leave the rear shocks alone until you see what this does.
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Old Jun 4, 2015 | 06:16 AM
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I had the same problem when I had the LCAs in the lowest hole. It would hit the tires hard and then unload them a few feet down the track. Too much anti-squat is a bad thing. I'd put the LCAs in the middle hole.
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Try less air pressure in slicks and tighten lower control arm so it has to lift wheels quicker. Performance Trends has software (free first month) to determine anti squat, rise, and center of gravity by 4 link location. Just looking out. Load your specs and performance Trends has the answer
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Is it wheel hopping? What is the rear lower control arm angle compared the the door jam? What does the car weigh?
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Try adding some weight to the front with your current setup. Take some of the pinion angle out. Scale the car to see where you are. How much fuel are you carrying? Gallon of fuel weights 6.183 pounds per gallon.

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Following...Mine is doing similar.
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Try slowing the front end rise by tightening up the front shocks.
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I do believe op has since sold his camaro and now has a fox. There's a build thread of it somewhere.

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Same recommendations here. I would tighten the rebound on the front shocks and bring the lca's up a hole, or tighten the rear rebound also if you have adjustable rear shocks
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Originally Posted by BMR Sales2
Same recommendations here. I would tighten the rebound on the front shocks and bring the lca's up a hole, or tighten the rear rebound also if you have adjustable rear shocks
Eric, I have single adjustable front(Strange) and rear(QA1). I think they have 9 clicks each. On the pass in the vid the fronts were 1 click from full loose and the rears 1 click from firm (this setup was working great on my other car, so I though I would leave them where they were when I switched them over to this one) Definitely too loose...I did tighten the fronts to 4 from loose and backed the rears to 3 from firm. It did better traction wise but started doing the Vin Diesel twist (you commented on in my other post). I will be installing a 8pt. cage and subframe connectors before I take it back to the track. Hopefully will leave more level and not need a drag bar. The LCA are in the bottom hole on the S60, which I believe has 4 holes. The car is lowered pretty good so I think I will try that adjustment last. More thoughts are appreciated.https://ls1tech.com/forums/attachmen...wist-shout.jpg

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