SH*T TALKING MUSTANG DRIVER
SH*T TALKING MUSTANG DRIVER Ok here is the deal. My brother has a race setup for next saturady with this cocky mustang guy. The mustang runs 11.8-11.9s with a high 1.5 60 ft at 113 mph. My brothers best time was a few weeks ago and was a 12.176 with a 1.649 60ft at 110.73mph. The mustang guy said there is no way my brothers car is that fast with just boltons. We have 800 dollars to spend to get my brothers car ready by racetime. His mods are: lid,asp pulley,FTRA,Mac headers w/orp,ported tb,ported maf,random tech catback,cutout,373 gear, and vig 3200. We did not port the primarys on his headers when we installed them so we will prolly do that before this coming weekend. How much will porting the primarys help? I have a dry kit we could put on the car but would rather beat this guy on the motor to prove a point. With that money what should we do for optimal gains. EVERYTHING is at stake. Ok probably no money but a huge amount of respect. Thaks for everyones help. LS1 TECH kicks ***!!!!
Re: SH*T TALKING MUSTANG DRIVER Onemore thing,we dont have an atap to check and see if the tuning is dialed in right. How much would we stand to gain by adding a maft and dialed the car in assuming the tuning is not right.
Re: SH*T TALKING MUSTANG DRIVER What kind of tires you running? Might want to get some new meats to help you launch against that high 1.5x 60" Mustang. LS1 Edit might also be a thought to get your brothers car tweaked.
Re: SH*T TALKING MUSTANG DRIVER Thanks for your reply "BIG" Mike, tires arent really an issue we have some 26x11.5x16 et streets we can use for traction. Ive used them with my vig 3800 on the street and with a good burnout they hook awesome. Keep the ideas coming
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Re: SH*T TALKING MUSTANG DRIVER How about removing some weight from the car? Every 100 lbs is worth about a tenth and it wont cost you a thing. Check the Colonels weight reduction thread for some ideas.
Re: SH*T TALKING MUSTANG DRIVER Good idea Evil, the car weighs 3390 with skinnies,and passenger seat,rear seats, and speaker panels removed. We also have the front sway bar removed and as always the spare tire and jack will be taken out. Anything else that would be fairly easy to remove?
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Re: SH*T TALKING MUSTANG DRIVER Depends on how far ya wanna go, but theres alot of other stuff thats fairly easy to remove.. My buddy and I removed all of the stuff you listed, plus my catback (about 50 lbs), door panels (10 lbs each), carpet & sound deadning (35 lbs?), panel under steering wheel (5 lbs), glove box (2 lbs), t-top holders (2 lbs), console (9 lbs), CD changer (3 lbs?), speaker panels passenger & hatch (12 lbs), and speakers (15 lbs) in less than 4 hours.
Good luck,
-Dewayne
Good luck,
-Dewayne
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Re: SH*T TALKING MUSTANG DRIVER Find out where you can get some 100 octane race fuel.Find out where your going to run the guy and go there and practice the launchs and see which one works best.Also get an electric fan switch to keep the car cooler before you run.Every degree counts.Remove the screen in the maf meter and remove air filter when its time to play.Also pull out the passenger side seat when your brother runs.Oh last but not least spray his b#tch a#S.THE POINT IS TO WIN and last I recall the bottle is now officialy a basket bolt on he he he.Serve that sucka for all of us.
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Verdad Gallardo Re: SH*T TALKING MUSTANG DRIVER Booker man,LOL, I think we are gonna hook up the spray just in case we need it. <img src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" border="0" alt="[devil]" /> I still would like to see my bros bolt on car beat a heads and cam mustang on the motor. <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
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Re: SH*T TALKING MUSTANG DRIVER Joey:
You need to get that thing AutoTapped to see if you're getting any knock retard. I was getting SEVERE knock retard when I ran ported MAF ends with stock heads and cam. This could be costing you a bunch of power.
It got better after I got my cam/heads, but I still don't run a ported MAF..just a stock de-screened unit.
Get with me and you can borrow my AutoTap to check it out.
If you're O2's are way off, a MAFT might help a little, but you could probably spend your money more wisely. Chances are, you're probably running a little on the rich side, which is safe (especially for N20) and doesnt cost you all that much power.
You guys need to get a good cam in that ride....MTI, Thunder, SpeedDemon, etc. all have nice cam/spring/retainer/pushrod packages for around $800, and then do the install yourself. Let's see....overnight order the Cam on Monday.... get it Tuesday....install on Wednesday, and Thursday and Friday for testing and tuning....there's your plan!
You need to get that thing AutoTapped to see if you're getting any knock retard. I was getting SEVERE knock retard when I ran ported MAF ends with stock heads and cam. This could be costing you a bunch of power.
It got better after I got my cam/heads, but I still don't run a ported MAF..just a stock de-screened unit.
Get with me and you can borrow my AutoTap to check it out.
If you're O2's are way off, a MAFT might help a little, but you could probably spend your money more wisely. Chances are, you're probably running a little on the rich side, which is safe (especially for N20) and doesnt cost you all that much power.
You guys need to get a good cam in that ride....MTI, Thunder, SpeedDemon, etc. all have nice cam/spring/retainer/pushrod packages for around $800, and then do the install yourself. Let's see....overnight order the Cam on Monday.... get it Tuesday....install on Wednesday, and Thursday and Friday for testing and tuning....there's your plan!
Re: SH*T TALKING MUSTANG DRIVER Well scotty I think I will take you up on that autotap offer. We thought about getting a cam but for one my brother wants to stay bolton alittle longer and two the cam package like you said is around 800 but then he will need his computer tuned from what I have been reading. Thats just a little more money than he has right now. If you really wanna spray your car you can borrow my dry kit and go get you some 10 sec slips. <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> Later
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Re: SH*T TALKING MUSTANG DRIVER Weight is the key <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
Get rid of your carpet (40 pounds)
Front bumper support, foglights (23 pounds)
EGR, AIR and Cruise (16 pounds)
under dash panels 4 pounds.
That should put you close for sure <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
Chris
Get rid of your carpet (40 pounds)
Front bumper support, foglights (23 pounds)
EGR, AIR and Cruise (16 pounds)
under dash panels 4 pounds.
That should put you close for sure <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
Chris
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Re: SH*T TALKING MUSTANG DRIVER A Z06 INTAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DO IT!!!!!!! that is $450 and worth about 10 hp and it is still a bolt on..... Has he had the computer programmed??? If not try a Hypertech... $320 .... those 2 things could put you well out of reach of the MUSTDONKEY
Josh S.
Josh S.
Re: SH*T TALKING MUSTANG DRIVER Racing on the street?
-Borrow some skinnies, there's 40-50 lbs off the nose.
-Remove passenger seat? 30lbs
That's easy weight reduction...
I bet a HPP3 to raise up the shift points just a bit would be nice.
If racing on the street I would foot stall it up to 2500 and roll out.
I did that on Nitto's and the Mustang I raced spun thru three gears trying to catch me...
FWIW I was a 11.7 car at that time on a slick and he was an 11.8 car as he sat (on 28" ET Streets).
-Borrow some skinnies, there's 40-50 lbs off the nose.
-Remove passenger seat? 30lbs
That's easy weight reduction...
I bet a HPP3 to raise up the shift points just a bit would be nice.
If racing on the street I would foot stall it up to 2500 and roll out.
I did that on Nitto's and the Mustang I raced spun thru three gears trying to catch me...
FWIW I was a 11.7 car at that time on a slick and he was an 11.8 car as he sat (on 28" ET Streets).
Re: SH*T TALKING MUSTANG DRIVER Thanks for replying fellas. PSJ, skinnies will be on the car this weekend and all the seats except the drivers will be out of the car also. They will be racing on the street not at the track. THERE WILL BE NO 2500 AND THEN ROLL OUT. He is gonna do a "topfuel " burnout and we might be getting some vht. Its launch like A **** or spin. He has a hpp3 for his shift points so that is taking care of. TGIM99TA Will a intake really pick 10 hp on a bolt on car??? I thought that was for a heads and cam ride? TIA
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