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Old Jan 5, 2016 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 93camaro_zzz
You would probably get a lot more responses if this were in the Nitrous Oxide section.
Thanks dude guess I'll take my post over there then.
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Old Jan 5, 2016 | 12:09 PM
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I would t personally put anything zex on any car that's ricer junk nitrous as far as I'm concerned.

Nothing about those kits are any good, and the only thing they ever made was a perimeter plate for single plane style intakes, and I'm sure that was a mistake.


I don t care how cheap ya got it.... I would t use it, and there's likely a good reason someone was selling it as cheap as they did.


I hear about people doing stuff with nitrous and getting away with it like the above guy with the gtp, but those are all 1 out of 1000 bs luck stories..... Nitrous can make a ton of power but you can hurt stuff fast too.

You would t just throw a p1 procharger on without tuning the car, or a 67mm turbo kit so why does anyone think you can do this with nitrous is beyond me.
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Old Jan 5, 2016 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
I would t personally put anything zex on any car that's ricer junk nitrous as far as I'm concerned.

Nothing about those kits are any good, and the only thing they ever made was a perimeter plate for single plane style intakes, and I'm sure that was a mistake.


I don t care how cheap ya got it.... I would t use it, and there's likely a good reason someone was selling it as cheap as they did.


I hear about people doing stuff with nitrous and getting away with it like the above guy with the gtp, but those are all 1 out of 1000 bs luck stories..... Nitrous can make a ton of power but you can hurt stuff fast too.

You would t just throw a p1 procharger on without tuning the car, or a 67mm turbo kit so why does anyone think you can do this with nitrous is beyond me.
Its just something to play with for now dude which is why I'm asking now before i go and put some on the build I'll be doing.
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Old Jan 5, 2016 | 05:53 PM
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Then just throw it on and see what happens. I just don't trust any of that crap.
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Old Jan 5, 2016 | 05:58 PM
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Note: Nitrous will not have the same affect as seen in Fast & Furious
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Old Jan 5, 2016 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
Then just throw it on and see what happens. I just don't trust any of that crap.
I used it Saturday but ran out, I'll be filling the bottle tomorrow. And doing some test runs to see how it acts.
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Old Jan 5, 2016 | 06:16 PM
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Note: Nitrous will not have the same affect as seen in Fast & Furious
Aww man, I was hoping to see a big *** flame shooting out my car as I bang thru all 10 gears doing 150 down the street.
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Aww man, I was hoping to see a big *** flame shooting out my car as I bang thru all 10 gears doing 150 down the street.
LoL 150 will be achievable

Do you plan on hitting the track ?
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Originally Posted by madmike9396
LoL 150 will be achievable

Do you plan on hitting the track ?
On whatever motor I build yes, for now this is just my grocery getter lol.
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6

I hear about people doing stuff with nitrous and getting away with it like the above guy with the gtp, but those are all 1 out of 1000 bs luck stories......
AS I told the poster above recommended would be verifying fueling , in his case wet shot his risk is very low on such a conservative shot but wideband verification of afr in the 12's at wot on spray would be a best choice approach , as far as BS/1 in 1000 etc.. I have found quite the opposite when spraying vehicles I had no concern for that with my "advertised 20-100shot" adj system I couldn't get a major component to fail on many , many cars and lots of hits street & track. I have friends that borrow my portable dry and it has NOT broken: ctsv , srt challenger , srt jeep ,Silverado's , Toyota FJ , multiple Buick regal GS's , Taurus sho , etc... The SHO was the new style and nobody had even come close to 12's yet and my buddy kept upping the shot till we hit 12.5's and a few months into the car being available it was the quickest one. Admittedly most of my own use is with 3800 supercharged engines which are tough as nails ( quickest stock short block with power adder 8.6 @159) But in the late 80's I also sprayed a 125 wet plate kit at my stock monte ss 305 including a pass where the nitrous sol. stuck wide open until the bottle emptied and turned the carb into a big ice cube , car was down on power after tossed plugs in it 2 had burnt electrodes then continued on no issues after so enough attempts and a few incidents and never broke anything more than a $3 spark plug. So 1 in 1000 odds is as misleading as it would be for me to say nothing can happen don't worry - it can happen but it usually doesn't if your playing in the 100 shot and under realm.

not the gtp's best pass but from a night someone was there that I knew videoing so here is proof of said bs:


terrible video's but these are some bs passes from the Taurus:



the 12.5 pass had to run to the bleacher area and almost never got the car in focus but look at the track , et , trap its the same car just a 1/10 quicker

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Old Jan 5, 2016 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by murphinator
AS I told the poster above recommended would be verifying fueling , in his case wet shot his risk is very low on such a conservative shot but wideband verification of afr in the 12's at wot on spray would be a best choice approach , as far as BS/1 in 1000 etc.. I have found quite the opposite when spraying vehicles I had no concern for that with my "advertised 20-100shot" adj system I couldn't get a major component to fail on many , many cars and lots of hits street & track. I have friends that borrow my portable dry and it has NOT broken: ctsv , srt challenger , srt jeep ,Silverado's , Toyota FJ , multiple Buick regal GS's , Taurus sho , etc... The SHO was the new style and nobody had even come close to 12's yet and my buddy kept upping the shot till we hit 12.5's and a few months into the car being available it was the quickest one. Admittedly most of my own use is with 3800 supercharged engines which are tough as nails ( quickest stock short block with power adder 8.6 @159) But in the late 80's I also sprayed a 125 wet plate kit at my stock monte ss 305 including a pass where the nitrous sol. stuck wide open until the bottle emptied and turned the carb into a big ice cube , car was down on power after tossed plugs in it 2 had burnt electrodes then continued on no issues after so enough attempts and a few incidents and never broke anything more than a $3 spark plug. So 1 in 1000 odds is as misleading as it would be for me to say nothing can happen don't worry - it can happen but it usually doesn't if your playing in the 100 shot and under realm.

not the gtp's best pass but from a night someone was there that I knew videoing so here is proof of said bs:
Murphinator vs Some Slow *** Car - YouTube
Lol but how many miles on those cars? This one is a virgin that fell into my hands!!!
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Lol but how many miles on those cars? This one is a virgin that fell into my hands!!!
the 3800sc cars I was spraying were all 200,000 to 250,000 mile cars , the 88 monte ss is currently owned by my uncle I sold it to him about 26 years ago , it currently has 42k on it , car must have had 30 odd K on it when I was spraying it. My friends cars were a succession of brand new vehicles - he used to change vehicles like underwear , I cant recall miles but a couple hundred to 10,000 mile cars on most of them he never kept anything more than a year when money was good for him at the time....

It sounds like its working well for you on the small jet how close you need to pay attention to fueling increases as you go up on the jet so have fun now but as you turn up the wick where yours is a virgin a wideband would be a good investment , a tuner would be great as well but where you have a wet shot if its rich you drop the fuel jet(or increase the nitrous jet lol) if its lean you up the fuel jet..
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Old Jan 6, 2016 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by murphinator
the 3800sc cars I was spraying were all 200,000 to 250,000 mile cars , the 88 monte ss is currently owned by my uncle I sold it to him about 26 years ago , it currently has 42k on it , car must have had 30 odd K on it when I was spraying it. My friends cars were a succession of brand new vehicles - he used to change vehicles like underwear , I cant recall miles but a couple hundred to 10,000 mile cars on most of them he never kept anything more than a year when money was good for him at the time....

It sounds like its working well for you on the small jet how close you need to pay attention to fueling increases as you go up on the jet so have fun now but as you turn up the wick where yours is a virgin a wideband would be a good investment , a tuner would be great as well but where you have a wet shot if its rich you drop the fuel jet(or increase the nitrous jet lol) if its lean you up the fuel jet..
I'm going to fill the bottle as soon as the weather clears and do some test hits and go up on the shot 50 to 75 then maybe the 100 and see what happens. A buddy of mine was saying that if my motor held the 50 shot it should hold the 100 shot. "Nitrous is nitrous it will find the weak link" lol
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All fine and well but I still say luck. You start hitting stuff with any real power and it's not going to work for long. I'd be willing to bet you're had a lot of stuff get her and just not realize it.


100 hp likely won't hurt anything wth 8 cyl's as the engines are designed to last 200k now, might reduce that but you'll be ok occasionally using it.

Start spraying 200, melting plugs.... You're hurting parts, if he plugs go threes enough heat to hurt more than just the plug.


Fwiw I have a 42 pill in the fogger that's on my BBC. You start playing with real power you better be a little cautious.
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agreed with above statement if melting electrodes your hurting stuff or at least giving it a hot supper.

I never did smash an electrode flat though and typically that's what happens on the 3800's when they chip a chunk of the piston/ring land off but I also know guys that did that multiple times and just threw plugs in and kept racing them hurt without ever having a catastrophic failure. Should this guy do it with his virgin ? absolutely not , is it fun on something on a low budget I think so.

Your shot sounds very conservative and I respect that as I am sure you have some coin in your BBC and don't want to hurt it.
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Sooooo what would cause the car to bog at WOT??? anything I should know?
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Is the nos noid not coming on
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Old Jan 11, 2016 | 01:34 AM
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Is the nos noid not coming on
What's the best way to tell? Its an a4 so is it best to go thru the gears manually or should I just get on the foot brake and launch it in OD?
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like blown06 asked is the nitrous solenoid coming on and for that matter is there still good bottle pressure ??? if your out hitting it that bottle will empty quicker than you think , as the bottle gets low the pressure gets low but the fuel solenoid is still pumping the enrichment fuel to it , it will bog with too much fuel and little to no spray.

On the spray rpm's come up quickly I would leave it in drive.
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What's the best way to tell? Its an a4 so is it best to go thru the gears manually or should I just get on the foot brake and launch it in OD?
I think you are misunderstanding what I said. My comment had nothing to do with the transmission or how you launch it. Your symptoms are very typical of the bottle is low or the nos solinoid stopped working. This is typically 99% the problem for a nos newb.
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