Drag Racing Tech
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

another n2o

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 4, 2016 | 01:04 AM
  #1  
ElZ28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
Default another n2o

Just installed a zex wet kit on my stock 2000 z28. What do I need to know so that I can get the full effect of the bottle without breaking my pocket too much.
Reply
Old Jan 4, 2016 | 03:43 AM
  #2  
HCI2000SS's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 11,137
Likes: 20
From: Howell & Fenton MI
Default

What does the kit include?
Reply
Old Jan 4, 2016 | 09:08 AM
  #3  
ElZ28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by HCI2000SS
What does the kit include?
Fuel management, bottle, nozzle, switch, fuel rail adapter, and purge kit.
Reply
Old Jan 4, 2016 | 10:52 AM
  #4  
HCI2000SS's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 11,137
Likes: 20
From: Howell & Fenton MI
Default

Depending on your mods, the size shot, and timing, you might need to pull some timing
Reply
Old Jan 4, 2016 | 02:54 PM
  #5  
ElZ28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by HCI2000SS
Depending on your mods, the size shot, and timing, you might need to pull some timing
The car is bone stock dude I'm only spraying 55hp in it because it has 220k and I will be building a lower mileage motor to swap in later in the near future. So for now I decided to go the cheap route and spray it. Just wanted to know what kinda fuel and plugs are best to run with it for now.
Reply
Old Jan 4, 2016 | 02:57 PM
  #6  
ElZ28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
Default

I came across the kit for cheap so I couldn't pass it up. I'm new to nitrous and will like as much info as possible to get the best bang out of it. Do's and Dont's, tips, bottle pressure info, how to properly build pressure in the bottle all that 411 would be appreciated.
Reply
Old Jan 4, 2016 | 02:58 PM
  #7  
HCI2000SS's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 11,137
Likes: 20
From: Howell & Fenton MI
Default

Never heard of a 55 shot but considering that's all you're spraying then you won't need to do anything. Pressure is best between 900-1050 psi
Reply
Old Jan 4, 2016 | 02:59 PM
  #8  
ElZ28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by HCI2000SS
Never heard of a 55 shot but considering that's all you're spraying then you won't need to do anything
Me either until I read the jetting manual and it said 55hp lol
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-5

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-6

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
Old Jan 4, 2016 | 03:03 PM
  #9  
HCI2000SS's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 11,137
Likes: 20
From: Howell & Fenton MI
Default

Hmmm...yep that's so small of a shot, and considering that you're stock with stock timing, I'd just throw it on and and enjoy
Reply
Old Jan 4, 2016 | 07:06 PM
  #10  
ElZ28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by HCI2000SS
Hmmm...yep that's so small of a shot, and considering that you're stock with stock timing, I'd just throw it on and and enjoy
What's the most I can spray it with without having to pull time or do a tune?
Reply
Old Jan 4, 2016 | 07:09 PM
  #11  
HCI2000SS's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 11,137
Likes: 20
From: Howell & Fenton MI
Default

That's hard to say since every car is a little different, but some spray a 100 shot on the stock tune just fine. Personally I wouldn't do it to my car
Reply
Old Jan 4, 2016 | 08:13 PM
  #12  
murphinator's Avatar
12 Second Club
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,650
Likes: 1
From: southern Maine
Default

I have not sprayed anything with an LS engine before but have sprayed others.

General rule of thumb for timing pull is 2 degrees for every 50 shot , but 55 shot I would spray it and see if it has KR in the scans ( you really should scan it if your playing with spray)

where your shot is wet it gives added fuel enrichment so there is less concern than a dry shot but I am assuming its pulling fuel off the rail at the scrader valve ? good idea to put a fresh fuel filter on it and check fuel pressure with a guage to be sure your fuel system is up to snuff because now your asking your fuel delivery system to do more than it was designed for not that it cant handle fueling an extra 20% power increase it likely can but you will get addicted to spray and up the shot so know going in that you don't have a weak fuel system is good advice IMO.

I am sure there will be people coming in this thread with a lot more nitrous knowledge than me and they will want to know jet size , it will be stamped right on the jet , if the jet isn't loose in your small parts its likely in place inline , pull it out so you know for sure what your spraying , I own a couple kits and one of them is an adjustable dry with 5 jets advertised at 20/40/60/80/100 and I can tell you that data was not accurate at all , the "100" shot is much closer to 200 than 100 for example (.086 jet)

where does this kit spray the nitrous and the fuel at ? if the nitrous sprays before intake air sensor and/or maf those sensors would already jack up fueling as soon as they see the cold dense charge so assuming its spraying in a plate behind the TB ? is the fuel spraying in the same plate ?

I have sprayed what people would say is very recklessly on some cheap cars that I didn't care if they blew up and can tell you most cars will tolerate a fair amount of nitrous on occasion without issue , I sprayed a full weight 4 door v6 fwd gtp with my 86 jet many trips to the track dry kit running dead lean and nosing over the last couple hundred feet and all it did was melt electrodes off the plugs , throw plugs in it and do it again 12.1 @118 trap speed said mid 11's if I could ever get it to hook up , if it had enough fueling to make the 1/4 it would have surely trapped 120+. I am not advocating this just an example of what you shouldn't do but can lol eventually it would have chipped a piston but I couldn't get it to do it.. I think from what I have read on here about 100 shot is about the safe limit on a stock 4l60 convertor but typically people that spray have already added other bolt on mods that add power so you may be able to get away with more.
Reply
Old Jan 4, 2016 | 09:07 PM
  #13  
ElZ28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by murphinator
I have not sprayed anything with an LS engine before but have sprayed others.

General rule of thumb for timing pull is 2 degrees for every 50 shot , but 55 shot I would spray it and see if it has KR in the scans ( you really should scan it if your playing with spray)

where your shot is wet it gives added fuel enrichment so there is less concern than a dry shot but I am assuming its pulling fuel off the rail at the scrader valve ? good idea to put a fresh fuel filter on it and check fuel pressure with a guage to be sure your fuel system is up to snuff because now your asking your fuel delivery system to do more than it was designed for not that it cant handle fueling an extra 20% power increase it likely can but you will get addicted to spray and up the shot so know going in that you don't have a weak fuel system is good advice IMO.

I am sure there will be people coming in this thread with a lot more nitrous knowledge than me and they will want to know jet size , it will be stamped right on the jet , if the jet isn't loose in your small parts its likely in place inline , pull it out so you know for sure what your spraying , I own a couple kits and one of them is an adjustable dry with 5 jets advertised at 20/40/60/80/100 and I can tell you that data was not accurate at all , the "100" shot is much closer to 200 than 100 for example (.086 jet)

where does this kit spray the nitrous and the fuel at ? if the nitrous sprays before intake air sensor and/or maf those sensors would already jack up fueling as soon as they see the cold dense charge so assuming its spraying in a plate behind the TB ? is the fuel spraying in the same plate ?

I have sprayed what people would say is very recklessly on some cheap cars that I didn't care if they blew up and can tell you most cars will tolerate a fair amount of nitrous on occasion without issue , I sprayed a full weight 4 door v6 fwd gtp with my 86 jet many trips to the track dry kit running dead lean and nosing over the last couple hundred feet and all it did was melt electrodes off the plugs , throw plugs in it and do it again 12.1 @118 trap speed said mid 11's if I could ever get it to hook up , if it had enough fueling to make the 1/4 it would have surely trapped 120+. I am not advocating this just an example of what you shouldn't do but can lol eventually it would have chipped a piston but I couldn't get it to do it.. I think from what I have read on here about 100 shot is about the safe limit on a stock 4l60 convertor but typically people that spray have already added other bolt on mods that add power so you may be able to get away with more.
I just got it Saturday and threw it on I was like a kid at a toy store happy as hell and ready to feel that rush so I just put it on without doing anything to it(basic tune up wise). I need a nitrous gauge and fuel pressure gauge still. I sprayed it before the maf sensor directly into the tb with the stock lid lol. Which brings me here posting this thread to get more knowledge and know what to do when I put my build in whenever its done.
Reply
Old Jan 4, 2016 | 09:09 PM
  #14  
ElZ28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
Default

The fuel jet is 19 and the nitrous jet is 32
Reply
Old Jan 4, 2016 | 09:30 PM
  #15  
murphinator's Avatar
12 Second Club
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,650
Likes: 1
From: southern Maine
Default

I just lifted this from a post on the interwebs , take any chart like this with a grain of salt as factors like bottle pressure , actual air fuel ratio , spray location, pattern, and balance of distribution between cylinders can effect actual results , here it is :

Here is a good chart for NOS kits (rated at flywheel):

HP--Single N2O--Dual N2O--Single Fuel
25------.024
30------.026
35------.028------.020
50------.037------.024------.020
75------.042------.028------.022
100-----.047------.032------.025
125-----.055------.038------.029
150-----.063------.044------.034
175-----.070------.052------.038
200-----.082------.047------.044
250-----.093------.055------.050

so your shot should be around 40 hp , but spray gives awesome power under the curve so it will feel like more than that plus nitrous comes out of the bottle so cold a small shot gives a result like really great density altitude does , I call it DA in a bottle lol

Last edited by murphinator; Jan 4, 2016 at 09:35 PM.
Reply
Old Jan 4, 2016 | 09:42 PM
  #16  
ElZ28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by murphinator
I just lifted this from a post on the interwebs , take any chart like this with a grain of salt as factors like bottle pressure , actual air fuel ratio , spray location, pattern, and balance of distribution between cylinders can effect actual results , here it is :

Here is a good chart for NOS kits (rated at flywheel):

HP--Single N2O--Dual N2O--Single Fuel
25------.024
30------.026
35------.028------.020
50------.037------.024------.020
75------.042------.028------.022
100-----.047------.032------.025
125-----.055------.038------.029
150-----.063------.044------.034
175-----.070------.052------.038
200-----.082------.047------.044
250-----.093------.055------.050

so your shot should be around 40 hp , but spray gives awesome power under the curve so it will feel like more than that plus nitrous comes out of the bottle so cold a small shot gives a result like really great density altitude does , I call it DA in a bottle lol
So if go with the next size jets which is 40 for nitrous and 26 for fuel I would be near the 75 mark?
Reply
Old Jan 4, 2016 | 09:43 PM
  #17  
ElZ28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
Default

Maybe 60 huh
Reply
Old Jan 4, 2016 | 10:21 PM
  #18  
murphinator's Avatar
12 Second Club
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,650
Likes: 1
From: southern Maine
Default

close to 70 I would think by that chart... already looking to up the shot huh , I told you its addictive so be careful and wait for some ls1 wet shot experience to get in here and help you as you can see by what Ive done I'm a nitrous hack lol
Reply
Old Jan 4, 2016 | 10:24 PM
  #19  
ElZ28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 53
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by murphinator
close to 70 I would think by that chart... already looking to up the shot huh , I told you its addictive so be careful and wait for some ls1 wet shot experience to get in here and help you as you can see by what Ive done I'm a nitrous hack lol
Lol juuuust a little bit. I want to make sure I feel the right kick and watch my car pull away from all these coyotes and srt's without a problem for now lol. I just don't want to go up too high and BOOOOOM!!! Its the only car I have at the moment lol
Reply
Old Jan 5, 2016 | 08:37 AM
  #20  
93camaro_zzz's Avatar
12 Second Club
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 2,211
Likes: 3
From: San Diego, Ca.
Default

You would probably get a lot more responses if this were in the Nitrous Oxide section.
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:10 PM.

story-0
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-1
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-2
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-3
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-6
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-7
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-8
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE