Well G5X3 results inside
Well G5X3 results inside Well I went to the track to see what it can do in this heat.
First off the temps, 96-100 degrees outside, 14% humidity right now at 12am, might have been higher or lower at 9pm when I ran, pressure right now is 29.88, so it may have been worse at the time of running, but it equates to somewhere in the DA of 4000 ft or more, not that great
Anyways, track SUCKED MAJOR *** for traction, as always, I was pissed, but ran anyways.
Using MT ET Streets (26x10.5 or something), pressure at 14psi, only place it would get any traction, launched at 5000 RPM on this run, I launced at 6000 RPM on some others and spun like a muthaf**ka, did MAJOR burnouts too. I ran a couple 12.3x's and a couple 12.4x's too.
Best run:
R/T - .634 - zzzzzzzz
60' - 1.833 - sucks
330 - 5.180
1/8 - 7.950
MPH - 89.45
1000 - 10.315
1/4 - 12.313
MPH - 113.20
I know if I can get the 60's in 1.6x's I can break in the 11's, but with the **** poor track prep and the car not setup for this kind of racing, we'll see.
I am running stock torque arm, stock LCA's, poly bushings in all the sway bars and endlinks, Eibach prokit and Bilstein shocks, 21mm rear sway bar. 3800lb+ race weight, everything on the car like I run on the street, including my child seat
The car has MUCH more in it with better weather and a decent 60', but I need some help like a torque arm, LCA's, etc. And a diet
Oh and I put larger injectors in the car and haven't tuned for it, I think it may have been rich too.
So all in all, I am ok with the times, the MPH is low I think due to the weather and the ET streets, for some reason I always run slower MPH's on them over my street tires.
What do you think?
First off the temps, 96-100 degrees outside, 14% humidity right now at 12am, might have been higher or lower at 9pm when I ran, pressure right now is 29.88, so it may have been worse at the time of running, but it equates to somewhere in the DA of 4000 ft or more, not that great
Anyways, track SUCKED MAJOR *** for traction, as always, I was pissed, but ran anyways.
Using MT ET Streets (26x10.5 or something), pressure at 14psi, only place it would get any traction, launched at 5000 RPM on this run, I launced at 6000 RPM on some others and spun like a muthaf**ka, did MAJOR burnouts too.
I ran a couple 12.3x's and a couple 12.4x's too.Best run:
R/T - .634 - zzzzzzzz
60' - 1.833 - sucks
330 - 5.180
1/8 - 7.950
MPH - 89.45
1000 - 10.315
1/4 - 12.313
MPH - 113.20
I know if I can get the 60's in 1.6x's I can break in the 11's, but with the **** poor track prep and the car not setup for this kind of racing, we'll see.
I am running stock torque arm, stock LCA's, poly bushings in all the sway bars and endlinks, Eibach prokit and Bilstein shocks, 21mm rear sway bar. 3800lb+ race weight, everything on the car like I run on the street, including my child seat
The car has MUCH more in it with better weather and a decent 60', but I need some help like a torque arm, LCA's, etc. And a diet
Oh and I put larger injectors in the car and haven't tuned for it, I think it may have been rich too.So all in all, I am ok with the times, the MPH is low I think due to the weather and the ET streets, for some reason I always run slower MPH's on them over my street tires.
What do you think?
Last edited by Coach 02 A3 Z/28; Jun 27, 2004 at 10:12 AM.
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Originally Posted by Orange Peel
Well I went to the track to see what it can do in this heat.
First off the temps, 96-100 degrees outside, 14% humidity right now at 12am, might have been higher or lower at 9pm when I ran, pressure right now is 29.88, so it may have been worse at the time of running, but it equates to somewhere in the DA of 4000 ft or more, not that great
Anyways, track SUCKED MAJOR *** for traction, as always, I was pissed, but ran anyways.
Using MT ET Streets (26x10.5 or something), pressure at 14psi, only place it would get any traction, launched at 5000 RPM on this run, I launced at 6000 RPM on some others and spun like a muthafucka, did MAJOR burnouts too. I ran a couple 12.3x's and a couple 12.4x's too.
Best run:
R/T - .634 - zzzzzzzz
60' - 1.833 - sucks
330 - 5.180
1/8 - 7.950
MPH - 89.45
1000 - 10.315
1/4 - 12.313
MPH - 113.20
I know if I can get the 60's in 1.6x's I can break in the 11's, but with the **** poor track prep and the car not setup for this kind of racing, we'll see.
I am running stock torque arm, stock LCA's, poly bushings in all the sway bars and endlinks, Eibach prokit and Bilstein shocks, 21mm rear sway bar. 3800lb+ race weight, everything on the car like I run on the street, including my child seat
The car has MUCH more in it with better weather and a decent 60', but I need some help like a torque arm, LCA's, etc. And a diet Oh and I put larger injectors in the car and haven't tuned for it, I think it may have been rich too.
So all in all, I am ok with the times, the MPH is low I think due to the weather and the ET streets, for some reason I always run slower MPH's on them over my street tires.
What do you think?
First off the temps, 96-100 degrees outside, 14% humidity right now at 12am, might have been higher or lower at 9pm when I ran, pressure right now is 29.88, so it may have been worse at the time of running, but it equates to somewhere in the DA of 4000 ft or more, not that great
Anyways, track SUCKED MAJOR *** for traction, as always, I was pissed, but ran anyways.
Using MT ET Streets (26x10.5 or something), pressure at 14psi, only place it would get any traction, launched at 5000 RPM on this run, I launced at 6000 RPM on some others and spun like a muthafucka, did MAJOR burnouts too.
I ran a couple 12.3x's and a couple 12.4x's too.Best run:
R/T - .634 - zzzzzzzz
60' - 1.833 - sucks
330 - 5.180
1/8 - 7.950
MPH - 89.45
1000 - 10.315
1/4 - 12.313
MPH - 113.20
I know if I can get the 60's in 1.6x's I can break in the 11's, but with the **** poor track prep and the car not setup for this kind of racing, we'll see.
I am running stock torque arm, stock LCA's, poly bushings in all the sway bars and endlinks, Eibach prokit and Bilstein shocks, 21mm rear sway bar. 3800lb+ race weight, everything on the car like I run on the street, including my child seat
The car has MUCH more in it with better weather and a decent 60', but I need some help like a torque arm, LCA's, etc. And a diet
Oh and I put larger injectors in the car and haven't tuned for it, I think it may have been rich too.So all in all, I am ok with the times, the MPH is low I think due to the weather and the ET streets, for some reason I always run slower MPH's on them over my street tires.
What do you think?
Originally Posted by Country Boy
14% humidity 
Sorry, I found that funny since we (Florida people) have no lower than 80%
Sorry, I found that funny since we (Florida people) have no lower than 80% Yeah me 2.
I had to re read that part.
14% would be wonderful.
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Originally Posted by JZ'sTA
Yeah me 2.
I had to re read that part.
14% would be wonderful.
I had to re read that part.
14% would be wonderful.
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Originally Posted by Country Boy
14% humidity Sorry, I found that funny since we (Florida people) have no lower than 80%
Sorry, I found that funny since we (Florida people) have no lower than 80% Until you folk post a 4000, 5000, or 6000 DA slip, we consider you racing at "sub-standard" conditions, and your times are kinda meaningless.
Run 12.17 at 5000' DA in a stock, full weight car, then come back and talk to us.
PS - ET Streets change your gearing significantly, and normally lose 2-3 MPH.
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Originally Posted by McRat
And we find it hilarious that your highest altitude in your state is 411' ASL. ****, we have plants taller than that out West. When I drove through Florida in March, the humidity was about 40%-50%. It must have been a different Florida.
Until you folk post a 4000, 5000, or 6000 DA slip, we consider you racing at "sub-standard" conditions, and your times are kinda meaningless.
Run 12.17 at 5000' DA in a stock, full weight car, then come back and talk to us.
PS - ET Streets change your gearing significantly, and normally lose 2-3 MPH.
Until you folk post a 4000, 5000, or 6000 DA slip, we consider you racing at "sub-standard" conditions, and your times are kinda meaningless.
Run 12.17 at 5000' DA in a stock, full weight car, then come back and talk to us.
PS - ET Streets change your gearing significantly, and normally lose 2-3 MPH.
Originally Posted by Orange Peel
Well I went to the track to see what it can do in this heat.
First off the temps, 96-100 degrees outside, 14% humidity right now at 12am, might have been higher or lower at 9pm when I ran, pressure right now is 29.88, so it may have been worse at the time of running, but it equates to somewhere in the DA of 4000 ft or more, not that great
Anyways, track SUCKED MAJOR *** for traction, as always, I was pissed, but ran anyways.
Using MT ET Streets (26x10.5 or something), pressure at 14psi, only place it would get any traction, launched at 5000 RPM on this run, I launced at 6000 RPM on some others and spun like a muthafucka, did MAJOR burnouts too. I ran a couple 12.3x's and a couple 12.4x's too.
Best run:
R/T - .634 - zzzzzzzz
60' - 1.833 - sucks
330 - 5.180
1/8 - 7.950
MPH - 89.45
1000 - 10.315
1/4 - 12.313
MPH - 113.20
I know if I can get the 60's in 1.6x's I can break in the 11's, but with the **** poor track prep and the car not setup for this kind of racing, we'll see.
I am running stock torque arm, stock LCA's, poly bushings in all the sway bars and endlinks, Eibach prokit and Bilstein shocks, 21mm rear sway bar. 3800lb+ race weight, everything on the car like I run on the street, including my child seat
The car has MUCH more in it with better weather and a decent 60', but I need some help like a torque arm, LCA's, etc. And a diet Oh and I put larger injectors in the car and haven't tuned for it, I think it may have been rich too.
So all in all, I am ok with the times, the MPH is low I think due to the weather and the ET streets, for some reason I always run slower MPH's on them over my street tires.
What do you think?
First off the temps, 96-100 degrees outside, 14% humidity right now at 12am, might have been higher or lower at 9pm when I ran, pressure right now is 29.88, so it may have been worse at the time of running, but it equates to somewhere in the DA of 4000 ft or more, not that great
Anyways, track SUCKED MAJOR *** for traction, as always, I was pissed, but ran anyways.
Using MT ET Streets (26x10.5 or something), pressure at 14psi, only place it would get any traction, launched at 5000 RPM on this run, I launced at 6000 RPM on some others and spun like a muthafucka, did MAJOR burnouts too.
I ran a couple 12.3x's and a couple 12.4x's too.Best run:
R/T - .634 - zzzzzzzz
60' - 1.833 - sucks
330 - 5.180
1/8 - 7.950
MPH - 89.45
1000 - 10.315
1/4 - 12.313
MPH - 113.20
I know if I can get the 60's in 1.6x's I can break in the 11's, but with the **** poor track prep and the car not setup for this kind of racing, we'll see.
I am running stock torque arm, stock LCA's, poly bushings in all the sway bars and endlinks, Eibach prokit and Bilstein shocks, 21mm rear sway bar. 3800lb+ race weight, everything on the car like I run on the street, including my child seat
The car has MUCH more in it with better weather and a decent 60', but I need some help like a torque arm, LCA's, etc. And a diet
Oh and I put larger injectors in the car and haven't tuned for it, I think it may have been rich too.So all in all, I am ok with the times, the MPH is low I think due to the weather and the ET streets, for some reason I always run slower MPH's on them over my street tires.
What do you think?
Actually this past winter/spring was probably the most dry ever (as well as being cool). I ran Wednesday and it was between 85-90 degrees at 80+% humidity. Yeah, we have no altitude issues in south florida but you're hard pressed to be able to run on a night with good air.
I too recently installed the X3 cam. I have 2 yr old MTI stage II Ls6 heads (milled.03), a mosier 12 bolt, 4.10s, bolt ons, nittos, stock front tires.
I really suck launching but do pretty well shifting gears (I lift completely between shifts).
Leaving somewhere around 2,500 rpms I ran a 12.23 at 120.69 with an awesome 2.104 60 foot. I was pretty happy considering the heat. Obviously, I need to work on the launch. I either come out soft or spin. Either way I run close to the same times.
I too recently installed the X3 cam. I have 2 yr old MTI stage II Ls6 heads (milled.03), a mosier 12 bolt, 4.10s, bolt ons, nittos, stock front tires.
I really suck launching but do pretty well shifting gears (I lift completely between shifts).
Leaving somewhere around 2,500 rpms I ran a 12.23 at 120.69 with an awesome 2.104 60 foot. I was pretty happy considering the heat. Obviously, I need to work on the launch. I either come out soft or spin. Either way I run close to the same times.
The altitude is roughly 1320ft above sea level or more, not sure exactly.
We may have low humidity, but we have hideous heat and higher elevations, low pressure and that all adds up to shitty runs.
Yeah I need some suspension mods and get the car on a diet, it's sooo heavy.
WildBill - Yeah I thought the MPH was low, but I did have ET streets on with very low pressure, 14psi, so that won't help any. It was hot as hell outside and horrible conditions, so I think it will get better with some decent weather and a little more tuning, not sure what the larger injectors did to the tune, but it may be a little rich.
Mike - The only "decent" track here in AZ is Speedworld, and that's way the f**k out of the way, like an hour or so from Chandler. Firebird is where I ran last night, an they are the shittiest f**king track in the world Don't know the DA, etc for the tracks, sorry, depends on the weather for DA, but I would have to find out the elevation of each track, I think Firebird is 1320ft above sea level, probably more.
I don't have a scanner here, so I took a pic, I posted the info word for word above from the slip, but if you really need to see it, here's a pic I took with my camera.
I wish I could have run better, but for the conditions, it's the best I could do, I launched as hard as I could, but the track sucked and I couldn't net a good 60ft
We may have low humidity, but we have hideous heat and higher elevations, low pressure and that all adds up to shitty runs.
Yeah I need some suspension mods and get the car on a diet, it's sooo heavy.
WildBill - Yeah I thought the MPH was low, but I did have ET streets on with very low pressure, 14psi, so that won't help any. It was hot as hell outside and horrible conditions, so I think it will get better with some decent weather and a little more tuning, not sure what the larger injectors did to the tune, but it may be a little rich.
Mike - The only "decent" track here in AZ is Speedworld, and that's way the f**k out of the way, like an hour or so from Chandler.
Firebird is where I ran last night, an they are the shittiest f**king track in the world Don't know the DA, etc for the tracks, sorry, depends on the weather for DA, but I would have to find out the elevation of each track, I think Firebird is 1320ft above sea level, probably more.I don't have a scanner here, so I took a pic, I posted the info word for word above from the slip, but if you really need to see it, here's a pic I took with my camera.
I wish I could have run better, but for the conditions, it's the best I could do, I launched as hard as I could, but the track sucked and I couldn't net a good 60ft
Last edited by Coach 02 A3 Z/28; Jun 27, 2004 at 10:15 AM.
Originally Posted by WildBills WS6
dude, only 113. Doesnt sound right. Maybe you have some tunning issues. That cam should pull 119+ in a bolton 6-speed car
Originally Posted by mike's02ls1
What track is this? Moving to Chandler AZ soon, are tracks nice out their? What is the elevation, DA, Baro etc etc for both tracks.
I still think there are several issues with his car, which I'm sure will be fixed in time (tuning, etc). I trapped 114 w/my TR230 cam in the first week of Sept last year. About the same temps and a bit more humidity since it was nearing the end of the monsoons. I would expect x3 guys to be trapping 117 or better.
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From: BFE
I know what you mean about AZ weather. It is very similar here except a little more humid and at sea level so DA should be lower.
It is desert so sand blows on track, and gets stuck to the VHT. Track bite sucks here too.
Like AZ we run an average of .5+ slower than most tracks in US.
But it's the only track we got so we deal with it.
Winter will come and hopefully by then you'll sort out your bugs.
It is desert so sand blows on track, and gets stuck to the VHT. Track bite sucks here too.
Like AZ we run an average of .5+ slower than most tracks in US.
But it's the only track we got so we deal with it.
Winter will come and hopefully by then you'll sort out your bugs.