Newb here. I've only been to the track twice now with my camaro and have been struggling to get any traction out of the hole. I haven't 60ft anything better than 2.3 with most times being 2.5 and trapping at 110-112ish anywhere from 12.6 to 13.7. Mods are stock bottom end ls1. Prc 225 heads with 62cc. .600/.600 230/234. Fast 92/92 combo. Fast toys lid. 275/40 17 nitro 555r tires through a M6 with stock 3.42 gears 10 bolt. Any advice or help is appreciated.

 

With those tires, you're simply going to have a tough time getting the 6 gear to 60'.
That said, you should be able to get more out of it than you currently are, what clutch?

Our next problem is that itty bitty 10 bolt underneath there. It's not a matter of IF its going to grenade, but rather a matter of time.

 

8.8 for the win

 

Don't know for sure what clutch. I've never had the trans out of it yet.
I do have a link to the last trip to the strip of you can see where I'm doing wrong.

https://youtu.be/3FecJdqUiso

 

Your gonna have to slip the clutch a good by out of the hole. Dumping the clutch on a small drag radial will most always end up with tire spin off the line. It takes some practice and crappy runs to get use to slipping the clutch.

 

So what kind of technique do I attempt then. Like hold the rpms @ 2-3k and slip until it's engaged at those rpms? Or how exactly do you do that? I think my second run I slipped it a little but still wound up spinning @ WOT

 

Do you have any suspension components? Those would be the next things I'd be looking at to improve your 60ft. Those tires will only take you so far, but they aren't the worst. Lower control arms and relocation brackets will help quite a bit with getting it to dig in a little harder on the hit. Shocks will help a lot too

 

your trap speed shows current potential to run 11.9-12.2 , my stock internals M6 car went 11.9's on 112 trap , My stock internals stalled a4 car went 12.1 on 112 trap.

heads/cam I would expect to be trapping closer to 120 and on the threshold of high 10's low 11's so I think you have more than just traction to figure out.. Who is tuning the combination?

What was your 1/8 mile trap speed ? that can be very telling as well especially the amount of mph gained from 1/8 to 1/4

 

Suspension is all stock so far. Been trying to decide what's going to be beneficial most there. The tuning was done by a reputable tuner up here in Wisconsin, on a mustang dump put down 416/387. And mph @ 1/8 was anywhere from 85-87 mph and 1/4 was 109-112. 1/8th mile time was also 8.9- 9.4 seconds

 

Not bragging on this one, just stating the facts: I was able to cut a 1.86 sixty in my car way back in the day with a t56 and michelin pilot sports. My basic mods were rear LCAs, H/C, 396whp, full weight minus front sway bar. It just takes some finese. Doing it all over again, I would buy (In this order)

Rear Lower Control Arms
A bias ply slick at 275/10.5
Front Single Adjustable drag shocks on full loose

Then enjoy your better sixty foots.

 

As stated above. Just practice. Also the 3.42 gears are definitely not the best to get out of the hole with a six speed. Work on those shifts too. Getting better at that should help your trap speed.

 

I for sure know the shifts aren't quick. I have the tick adjustable master but I think I need to re-bleed it because I get "locked" out of third for a second or two when trying to shift in. Definitely going to spend a lot of time at the track this year. Thanks for the help so far guys!

 

24-25 mph gain on the top end its making some power , fix your 60 foots and the shifting issues your describing and that will go a long way to running some great times.

 

I would get a bias ply slick and let it eat. When the rear end goes, upgrade to a 9inch. I wouldnt worry about your trap speeds until you get your 60ft times under control. My car wouldn't trap for **** when I was spinning all the way down the track.

 

I ran a 1.65 60ft with the same tire. 18lbs and a long 10 second burnout. These tires wont stick without a lot of heat. That said its not a good drag tire. If the track isn't preped and perfect.

 

Hey man, your gonna want to get a real good feel for where your clutch pedal starts to engage the clutch. I would not worry as much as trying to hit a specific rpm off the line because without a two step it's really hard to be spot on. I would start around 3000rpms with that said and get comfortable with doing that. Once you get a little experience with it then you can go as high as you think will work. Basically your going to be slowly but quickly be engaging the clutch while working your way to full throttle. If you go full throttle too quick with the slippage then it will slip the clutch too much and spin the motor high. If you release the clutch too quickly the motor will bog and slow you acceleration. It's hard to hit the sweet spot. I would rather the car bog than slip the clutch too much.

Just remember the more you slip this clutch the faster it's gonna wear. The faster it heats up the faster it will wear out. Now that happens with the stock organic discs, and several others. Iron discs and carbon discs would handle slip and heat a lot better but to what extent I dunno. I just have a general knowledge of clutch disc materials.

Good luck man. I wore my stock clutch out fairly quickly doing this so watch out.

 

Your biggest problem is gearing. Let's say your car has 1.60 60's in it, that's an average acceleration rate over that 60' of 1.46 g's. With your current gearing, the clutch/tires would need to slip for about 8 tenths of a second (about 15') just to maintain a minimum of 3000rpm after the launch. It will be hard to get that 1.6 60 pulling from 3k.

With the right gearing and clutch, you will likely be able to get low 11's and 1.5 60's on the tires you have.

 

Thanks for the tips and knowledge guys. Will definitely be trying these things next time I'm at the track