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Old Aug 26, 2019 | 08:15 PM
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In a max performance street tire (NOT drag radials), what will hook better given all other factors are equal (in a car that roughly weighs 3000 lbs)... A 255/45/17 tire or 285/40/17? Does sidewall height make a difference in a street tire?
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Old Aug 26, 2019 | 08:32 PM
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If you're talking regular radial tires I'm going with width.
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Old Aug 27, 2019 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
If you're talking regular radial tires I'm going with width.
Yeah I figured... Anyone else have different opinions or any add on comments?
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Old Aug 27, 2019 | 03:52 PM
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The compound has alot to do with both width and height..... Ive seen some auto cars perform better with a siff wall tire thats the sane width and height.

Stiff wall tires are usually meant for stick stift cars. Something to think about.
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Old Aug 29, 2019 | 07:57 AM
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The words "hook" and "street tire" should not be in the same sentence. "Spin less" is more like it.

You never said what you are doing with these tires, but since it's in the drag racing section, I would go to a 15" tire if possible. Or a 275/50-17 if you're stuck with 17's. That is basically a 28x10 tire.

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Old Aug 31, 2019 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by T6Rocket
The words "hook" and "street tire" should not be in the same sentence. "Spin less" is more like it.

You never said what you are doing with these tires, but since it's in the drag racing section, I would go to a 15" tire if possible. Or a 275/50-17 if you're stuck with 17's. That is basically a 28x10 tire.

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You are correct... Spin less is the better term. I'm looking for an all around street setup but can also hit the strip once in a while, current choices are 255s or 285s. Compound is more important than width but I wonder if the extra hassle is worth it (mind you I already have new 255s mounted on the wheels). Car hasn't gone out yet so I don't know how they'll grip
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Old Oct 25, 2019 | 03:43 PM
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Short answer, yes
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So many factors and every unknown going on here. Type of car, power of car, suspension, transmission, clutch/converter. Alot of that needs to be known to even recommend a tire if you want it to hook or spin less.

One of the issues with height is gearing which is one of the reasons i said width so gearing didn't have to be changed.
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From my experience with various cars on the street I'm going with width on this one for sure. To get the footprint big enough from height alone to make a substantial difference to traction, you need like a 30"+ tall tire to really start making a difference. (speaking here about on the street on street tires, not drag radials or slicks on a prepped track which is a different story)

For example I could "peddle" my cam only ls1 4th gen with 4k stall converter, to low 12's on my g-tech with 295/50/15 cheap Nankang street tires. With anything smaller it couldn't do that.

Another ls1 daily driver I have, I went 2 sizes up in rear tires recently and they are cheap chinese tires and they're wider than they are taller and I was surprised it hooks much better.

If Nankang or someone else made a cheap 325/50/15 true street tire i'd run them now and then on my Camaro instead of needing drive around on expensive hoosiers/m/t's all the time.
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I don't know about you, but I don't have tires long enough to develop a relationship. My rear tires are bald within 1K miles. Maybe just try one and see how you like it. There's always next month. LOL!
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2 tires of the same height...wider is better

2 tires of the same width...taller is better
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Originally Posted by Launch
From my experience with various cars on the street I'm going with width on this one for sure. To get the footprint big enough from height alone to make a substantial difference to traction, you need like a 30"+ tall tire to really start making a difference. (speaking here about on the street on street tires, not drag radials or slicks on a prepped track which is a different story)

For example I could "peddle" my cam only ls1 4th gen with 4k stall converter, to low 12's on my g-tech with 295/50/15 cheap Nankang street tires. With anything smaller it couldn't do that.

Another ls1 daily driver I have, I went 2 sizes up in rear tires recently and they are cheap chinese tires and they're wider than they are taller and I was surprised it hooks much better.

If Nankang or someone else made a cheap 325/50/15 true street tire i'd run them now and then on my Camaro instead of needing drive around on expensive hoosiers/m/t's all the time.
I has nankang 275/40/18 on the rear of my gto and oddly they hook up extremely well. I probably have about 650rwhp-ish and I don’t know why it hooks as good as it does. I do have boost but gear and as long as I don’t have it turned all the way up, it hooks pretty damn good. Here’s a short clip. This is my neutered street tune. Excuse my teenager who did the video. For some reason he thinks it’s cool to video everything sideways. :rolleyes
This was about 4-5psi in first gear.

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