Pro Stock John

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George, I'll give you a spot for each 10ci, and you can in turn spot me .10 for how much lighter you are, and .10 for the transbrake. So you will be 3200 right? I'll take .4 back, we are are a heads up race. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

Technically Tony should give me .14 for the cube advantage.

John
3500 raceweight
4L60E

Colonel

Dave, no, but I figure the students might have picked up a few of their own along the way! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

Seriously, there is going to be some GREAT competition at this event. NA 9s will be the norm in my class. The winner will be DEEP in the 9s. Should be exciting! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />

Nine Ball

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">NA 9s will be the norm in my class. The winner will be DEEP in the 9s</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What sucks is that I'm in the same class as these 9-second NA cars because event organizers never thought that some people actually own big motor, full weight street cars out here <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" />

Maybe I'll just be the quickest NA car in the bracket event haha

-Tony

Pro Stock John

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Ha maybe I'll go for that crown too..

Last time at the track...

11.09
11.06
11.09
11.04

GeorgeC

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Nine Ball:
<strong>What sucks is that I'm in the same class as these 9-second NA cars because event organizers never thought that some people actually own big motor, full weight street cars out here <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">...or small motored lightweight cars like mine. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> I'm in the same boat as you, Tony! I may have a few tricks up my sleeve, though. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />

<small>[ September 24, 2002, 04:22 PM: Message edited by: GeorgeC ]</small>

Joe Kizzire

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Nine Ball:
What sucks is that I'm in the same class as these 9-second NA cars because event organizers never thought that some people actually own big motor, full weight street cars out here <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" />
-Tony[/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Tony tell the whole story..... When we first came up with the classes and rules you had a 382 inch motor the fit Modified /Stock and would have been very competitive. It was your desision to change engines not ours.

Frank95z

Some of the lightweight guys may have a bit of work to get to 3500#s. I heard Mike H was getting Anna Nicole Smith to drive his car. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> Frank95z

<small>[ September 25, 2002, 07:12 PM: Message edited by: Frank95z ]</small>

Pro Stock John

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I don't mind a little heads up action, but maybe I should get a local to find me those 70 lb tubes of sand for $2.50 each and equalize that out a bit, I'm not going heads up with a car that weighs like 3000 lbs. I'm gonna be at 3450 lbs I hope and I still have a heater and a radio. Or how about this, if you weigh 3000 lbs and I am 3500 I spray a 50 shot DRY and we go heads up. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

95 Formula

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Nine Ball:
<strong>[QUOTE]
Maybe I'll just be the quickest NA car in the bracket event haha

-Tony</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Heheheheh...ummm...maybe not..I know whos running in the brackets..

95 Formula

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Frank95z:
<strong>Some of the lightweight guys may have a bit of work to get to 3500#s. I heard Mike H was getting Anna Niclole Smith to drive his car. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> Frank95z</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Nine Ball

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Tony tell the whole story..... When we first came up with the classes and rules you had a 382 inch motor the fit Modified /Stock and would have been very competitive. It was your desision to change engines not ours.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Joe, you didn't create that class to cater to me. You probably set it up to match your own car. This still doesn't change the fact that there are MANY other 400+ci LS1 owners that have these motors in their daily-driven, full weight cars. With these rules, you just assumed that all 400+ci cars were 3200# gutted TH350 trailer queens. Those are actually the minority....

George, even at 3500#, your car will still kick some *** in that class. Probably a top contender!

Also, how come there are seperate classes for stock manual and stock A4 tranny setups? I'm not afraid of running any A4 cars with a similar setup and weight. There is a HUGE gap between <400ci 3500# cars and all-out "Pro Stock" unlimited 3200# cars.

-Tony

Y2K_WS6_T/A

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Nine Ball:
<strong>There is a HUGE gap between <400ci 3500# cars and all-out "Pro Stock" unlimited 3200# cars.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Run whatcha brung..... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Trevor @ Texas Speed & Perf.

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No matter the setup, an auto will typically run quicker. I'd bet that a lot of M6 guys wouldn't have entered if they knew they'd be up against a bunch of automatics with fat converters. <img border="0" alt="[devil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" /> The majority of the M6's with just a cam or stock internals still have the 10-bolt, and there's no way they'll be able to pull off some 1.5 or 1.6 60' times like the A4 guys. I think the turnout will be great for both auto and manual classes, and it will be cool to see who can really shift those stick cars.

No matter what, we all have to keep in mind that this event is for fun. We aren't always going to have a class that we can be competitive in. I drove 750 miles each way for the NFRA event just to run brackets. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> It turns out that I was pretty competitive. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> If you feel that you can't compete ET-wise for your appropriate class, then you'd better make your way to every T&T and bracket event between now and Nov. 2nd to brush up on your bracket racing skillz. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> There will be a few racers in brackets that will consistently run their dial and nail their light, so be ready! <img border="0" alt="[judgement]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" />

Trevor

<small>[ September 25, 2002, 02:30 PM: Message edited by: Trevor D ]</small>

Nine Ball

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Trevor, most of the quicker NA automatic cars are gutted. My times are easily comparible to any full-weight A4 big motored car with a 4L60E. If M6 guys want to compete, they should install a 12-bolt in my opinion. A4 guys spend $2K on a tranny upgrade, M6 guys spend that much on a rear. Its fair.

PS, you can ask the local guys how well this gear banger can hit the ET and the R/T. I'm not scared of non-driver automatics <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />

HAHA

-Tony

Colonel

"Trevor, most of the quicker NA automatic cars are gutted."

This one isn't. Full interior for a change! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />

Full interior minus the rear seats is still required for this event, correct? So, there will be no theft recoveries. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Nine Ball

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Just out of curiosity, what is the quickest 4L60E all-motor LS1 running, with a 3600 lb or greater raceweight?

What is the best 60' time from a 3600 lb or more A4 all-motor car?

Just seeing how my lowly manual compares...

-Tony

Mike Hoffpauir

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Frank95z:
<strong>Some of the lightweight guys may have a bit of work to get to 3500#s. I heard Mike H was getting Anna Niclole Smith to drive his car. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> Frank95z</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah Frank, but I got her doing more than driving! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

But really though no one drives my car but me. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
And it wont be too hard to get the 150 pounds I need to hit 3500. I'm going to run a full tank of gas, spare and jack, a toolbox, and a couple of Dumb bells I have laying around my apartment <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

JS

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Tony----->3520lbs Cartek S2X 11.17/1.47/120.68
Hope that helps,The weather should good at this event.My boss better let me go <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" />

JS

Trevor @ Texas Speed & Perf.

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Nine Ball:
<strong>I'm not scared of non-driver automatics <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />

HAHA

-Tony</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">LOL! We'll have to line up so I can tree ya then. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />

Colonel

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Nine Ball:
<strong>Just out of curiosity, what is the quickest 4L60E all-motor LS1 running, with a 3600 lb or greater raceweight?

What is the best 60' time from a 3600 lb or more A4 all-motor car?

Just seeing how my lowly manual compares...

-Tony</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It might be hard to find many big engined 3600 lb A4s to compare to with (HTF do you folks make these cars so heavy?!?)

Anyway, when I was 3500 lbs and still running the 4L60-E, I ran 10.7@127.5 on radial tires with my first MTI setup (LS1 heads and R1 cam.) 60 ft was 1.51. Oh yeah, that was through the exhaust. I think I ran a low 10.5 at the same weight on slicks. <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" />