BIG BLOCK IN A 4th GEN????
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BIG BLOCK IN A 4th GEN???? Okay....first off this is going in a drag car...that will see occasional street use for nights when I'm feeling real frisky. But has anyone put a BBC in a 4th gen fbod? I am looking into a crate motor thats putting out a claimed 1000 plus hp. The chassis it's going into has a 12pt cage. Its a 97 Camaro z28 convertible. It has a KTRE 12bolt and the rear suspension is completely built.
Question 1- Will it fit w/ the inner fenderwells untouched?
Question 2- Is there a motor plate already made that is used for this application
Question 3- With this motor and a Powerglide how would you hook up the guages? Would a custom Autometer/sheetmetal setup be required
Question 4- The goal for this car is 9 teens or high 8's.....should be enough eh?
Obviously this thread belongs somewhere else...however I don't know where...moderators be easy...lol...thanks for the help.
Question 1- Will it fit w/ the inner fenderwells untouched?
Question 2- Is there a motor plate already made that is used for this application
Question 3- With this motor and a Powerglide how would you hook up the guages? Would a custom Autometer/sheetmetal setup be required
Question 4- The goal for this car is 9 teens or high 8's.....should be enough eh?
Obviously this thread belongs somewhere else...however I don't know where...moderators be easy...lol...thanks for the help.
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Originally Posted by Jordan57
Okay....first off this is going in a drag car...that will see occasional street use for nights when I'm feeling real frisky. But has anyone put a BBC in a 4th gen fbod? I am looking into a crate motor thats putting out a claimed 1000 plus hp. The chassis it's going into has a 12pt cage. Its a 97 Camaro z28 convertible. It has a KTRE 12bolt and the rear suspension is completely built.
Question 1- Will it fit w/ the inner fenderwells untouched?
Question 2- Is there a motor plate already made that is used for this application
Question 3- With this motor and a Powerglide how would you hook up the guages? Would a custom Autometer/sheetmetal setup be required
Question 4- The goal for this car is 9 teens or high 8's.....should be enough eh?
Obviously this thread belongs somewhere else...however I don't know where...moderators be easy...lol...thanks for the help.
Question 1- Will it fit w/ the inner fenderwells untouched?
Question 2- Is there a motor plate already made that is used for this application
Question 3- With this motor and a Powerglide how would you hook up the guages? Would a custom Autometer/sheetmetal setup be required
Question 4- The goal for this car is 9 teens or high 8's.....should be enough eh?
Obviously this thread belongs somewhere else...however I don't know where...moderators be easy...lol...thanks for the help.
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Well i figured none of them would work. The alternator guage is all electric and probably a race alternator wouldn't have the electrical hook up that is compatible. The speedo working with a power glide...hmmm doubtful a mechanical tranny would work with the electric speedo on the car. The tach may work with a crank trigger etc. The coolant sensor is plugged into the head and the waterpump and I don't wanna go drilling and tapping into high dollar heads and the water pump would create all sorts of problems.
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you could run a belt driven magneto off the front of the motor, that may solve the cowel clearace problems that you're sure to have. As for this project in a convertable car, I wouldn't feel too safe in that, and I hope you plan on being banned from the track after the first pass if they even allow you in with it. Last time I checked, there's rules against convertables that go faster than 10.99 I do believe. If you aren't planning on trying to run 8's, I say why bother with the BB conversion, you can get a ls1/lt1 to run 10's easily enough, with alot less work, hell, there's a boatload of guys running 9's with them, consistantly.
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If you want to keep the factory gauges, it can be done.
A Volt gauge is a volt gauge, the factory one will hook up the same as an aftermarket would.
The powerglide has a mechanical speedo, but you can probably find a sending unit that'll fit.
The factory tach has an input wire just like other tachs, although the factory tach can be inaccurate.
The BBC heads have places to put the coolant temp sensor as well.
The oil pressure sending unit will plug in right above the filter.
A Volt gauge is a volt gauge, the factory one will hook up the same as an aftermarket would.
The powerglide has a mechanical speedo, but you can probably find a sending unit that'll fit.
The factory tach has an input wire just like other tachs, although the factory tach can be inaccurate.
The BBC heads have places to put the coolant temp sensor as well.
The oil pressure sending unit will plug in right above the filter.
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"JL ws-6 you could run a belt driven magneto off the front of the motor, that may solve the cowel clearace problems that you're sure to have. As for this project in a convertable car, I wouldn't feel too safe in that, and I hope you plan on being banned from the track after the first pass if they even allow you in with it. Last time I checked, there's rules against convertables that go faster than 10.99 I do believe. If you aren't planning on trying to run 8's, I say why bother with the BB conversion, you can get a ls1/lt1 to run 10's easily enough, with alot less work, hell, there's a boatload of guys running 9's with them, consistantly. "
I just saw in the GMHTP the fastest LS1 in the country runs 8.52 and is in.....a convertible trans am. Hmmmm....anybody?
I just saw in the GMHTP the fastest LS1 in the country runs 8.52 and is in.....a convertible trans am. Hmmmm....anybody?
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I just saw in the GMHTP the fastest LS1 in the country runs 8.52 and is in.....a convertible trans am. Hmmmm....anybody?
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I just finished installing a carbed SBC into my camaro not too long ago, and I was looking at possibly doing a big block at the same time. In the end I went with the small block more or less for ease of install.
BMR makes a K-member for the SBC and BBC into 4th gens.
I think an 8.1/4L80E combo would be beastly. Though don't
know what the 8.1 has for aftermarket hop-up support, it
has the displacement.
I think an 8.1/4L80E combo would be beastly. Though don't
know what the 8.1 has for aftermarket hop-up support, it
has the displacement.
bbc in 4th gen thunder racing sells a motor plate for bbc in 4th gen. also hooker super comp headers (part #2455) will work on the 4th gen camaro..with very little effort. i have a 98 camaro with a 496 bbc , powerglide and an F1 supercharger. car will be completed shortly. will let you know the outcome..remember one thing...their is no replacement for displacement...
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If you want to put headers on be ready to shell out the$$$$
Not really alot of $$$$$. Hooker Headers 2455 ($150 uncoated) ($350 coated I think) These work really good with an aftermarket K-member and can even work on a stock k-member with a little cutting on the stock k-member.