Judson's car isn't on any of our lists because he hasn't registered to input the data. He used to have a couple students on the site that did that for him, but I guess they aren't interested?

-Tony

 

All a manual does is add another variable to the mix. Its your left foot, and anyone that can do it in these days of $4000 autos and still come out on top deserves more credit then the average JOE. I've seen alot of posts on this site "Judson Bashing" I haven't been able to figure out a true reason for it except the usual jealousy factor. Try this little bench racing experiment, consider it like I.R.O.C. if you all could sit in the Orange Camaro and get a couple of passes, could anyone do any better?

 

All a manual does is add another variable to the mix. Its your left foot, and anyone that can do it in these days of $4000 autos and still come out on top deserves more credit then the average JOE. I've seen alot of posts on this site "Judson Bashing" I haven't been able to figure out a true reason for it except the usual jealousy factor. Try this little bench racing experiment, consider it like I.R.O.C. if you all could sit in the Orange Camaro and get a couple of passes, could anyone do any better?

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by ChevelleSS:
<strong>if you all could sit in the Orange Camaro and get a couple of passes, could anyone do any better?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">when those cards hit the table(highly doughtfull)let me know. ill be more than happy to jump in that line. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Y2K_WS6_T/A:
<strong>Pics of V6 Bird's Interior!!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">All for a timeslip. Unimpressive if you ask me.

Tim

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Tim98TA:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Y2K_WS6_T/A:
<strong>Pics of V6 Bird's Interior!!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">All for a timeslip. Unimpressive if you ask me.

Tim</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">If you ask me, some people have different goals and motives. I doubt if he did it to impress you anyway.

 

He's got me beat. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
I may have to get that intense in spring.
Depending on how low the new M6 record will be.
If it goes lower than 11.35,I won't even bother. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

H/C and juice.

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by V6 Bird:
<strong>Trust me the bolt on records for a4's will stay in TX as far as M6's go that will be determined...

I say its gonna stay in TX much better is that it will stay in Dallas..... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> IUm gonan show JS12 how to really strip the car AMS style.

Mods on my car are really simple...

pt4000
hooker lt's
Duals
the basic mods (lid, free mods, etc.)
lakewood LCA's
trany cooler
Wolfe 6 pt bolt in cage
PA k member and front lCAs'
Prostars with Et drags and Good year Front runners
Relocation brackets
Hals with a Pro kit
!weight!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">And what shot of nitrous? I dont know if anyone else finds this odd. A 6-cyinder bird runs low 15's stock about. All he has is basically a converter, exhaust, and basic mods and hes running an 11.3 w/ a 3200 lb raceweight? I dont care if he is in texas, somethin doesnt sound right to me.
-Mark

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by SS Mark:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by V6 Bird:
<strong>Trust me the bolt on records for a4's will stay in TX as far as M6's go that will be determined...

I say its gonna stay in TX much better is that it will stay in Dallas..... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> IUm gonan show JS12 how to really strip the car AMS style.

Mods on my car are really simple...

pt4000
hooker lt's
Duals
the basic mods (lid, free mods, etc.)
lakewood LCA's
trany cooler
Wolfe 6 pt bolt in cage
PA k member and front lCAs'
Prostars with Et drags and Good year Front runners
Relocation brackets
Hals with a Pro kit
!weight!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">And what shot of nitrous? I dont know if anyone else finds this odd. A 6-cyinder bird runs low 15's stock about. All he has is basically a converter, exhaust, and basic mods and hes running an 11.3 w/ a 3200 lb raceweight? I dont care if he is in texas, somethin doesnt sound right to me.
-Mark</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Maybe, it just looks like a V6 Firebird... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

 

It seems the M6 guys are trying so damn hard and still falling a bit short, ehhh? I'm not going to even care about the S.A.M. car because I don't know anything about it. However the cars on the NA list are all different. The cars on the stock internal list are all similar and the autos are on top and don't seem to be trying that hard anymore, but there's a lot of hype and strife coming from the M6 crowd. Can the left foot (M6) beat the machine (A4), come on let's stir this up and get a 10 outta someone. <img border="0" alt="[judgement]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" />

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by AlienDroid:
<strong>It seems the M6 guys are trying so damn hard and still falling a bit short, ehhh? I'm not going to even care about the S.A.M. car because I don't know anything about it. However the cars on the NA list are all different. The cars on the stock internal list are all similar and the autos are on top and don't seem to be trying that hard anymore, but there's a lot of hype and strife coming from the M6 crowd. Can the left foot (M6) beat the machine (A4), come on let's stir this up and get a 10 outta someone. <img border="0" alt="[judgement]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That's mainly because the M6's were behind for a while. They're starting to get just as "racy" as the A4's. You seeing now people who are willing to go to the extremes to get the numbers. Looking at it right now.. it could very well be a M6 that's first into the 10's.

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by AlienDroid:
<strong>It seems the M6 guys are trying so damn hard and still falling a bit short, ehhh? I'm not going to even care about the S.A.M. car because I don't know anything about it. However the cars on the NA list are all different. The cars on the stock internal list are all similar and the autos are on top and don't seem to be trying that hard anymore, but there's a lot of hype and strife coming from the M6 crowd. Can the left foot (M6) beat the machine (A4), come on let's stir this up and get a 10 outta someone. <img border="0" alt="[judgement]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ditto what John said. On a side note, who is trying so hard in an M6 right now? No one I know of. JS12 is going with N2O, I believe. 01-Z hasn't been trying, and he's likely going with at least a cam for next year, if not heads/cam or cam/N2O. Haven't seen anything new from LARRY01Z28. I'm sure he's not willing to throw any more abuse at his stock 10-bolt. As a matter of fact, if I remember correctly, he's already broken one when he launched on ET Streets instead of the NITTO DR's that got him an 11.69. You just don't seem to understand a few things, my Waco brother. For one...the A4's are EASIER to get to go fast for several reasons. One, they are easier on the drivetrain and can usually run deep into the 11's, and even in the 10's (John Campbell) without breaking the POS 10-bolt. All they have to do is swap in a high-stall converter and they can run with their stock gears DEEP into the 11's. We do not have that luxury, however. And I'm sure you're aware that you must spend an arm and a leg to get an aftermarket rear that will hold. And it's really hard to race with only one arm and one leg, especially with an M6. But, some of us are doing it. Plus, we also have the less-than-adequate clutch and hydraulic system to worry about that A4's don't. I'm not sure how long you've been in the game, but as John said, for the longest time, A4's absolutely ruled the list, and there weren't any M6's near the top. For the longest time Smoke_ur_5.0 was the quickest M6 with an 11.89, I believe it was. No M6 guys were willing to do the weight reduction or run the gearing necessary to catch the A4 guys. I guess they were all convinced that the A4 was just superior. Well, I'm here to tell you that it's not. It's not SUPERIOR, but it is EASIER to get to go fast. No offense whatsoever to my A4 brethren; I used to have an A4 myself and they are extremely impressive. I'm not a tranny racist at all. But, the time for the M6 to show what it can do is coming, I assure you. My 3.42 10-bolt has now been replaced by a 4.56 9", and my stock clutch will soon give way to a RAM 900-series. And there are several other small modifications to be done. One thing's for sure, by spring, the time for the A4 domination of the bolt-on list will come to an end. Thank you, that is all. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />