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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 10:39 AM
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Tony you smoked another motor?!?!
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 11:02 AM
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I'm good at breaking stuff. I was a destructive kid too. Imagine the destruction I could accomplish had I stayed a nitrous junkie!

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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 03:16 PM
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Damn Tony that sucks, sorry to hear that man! Good times though...Keep us posted. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" />
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 03:34 PM
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DAMN!!! your a driveN fool....got to love the M6 <img border="0" alt="[hail]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" />

Sorry to hear about the problems.....
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 03:52 PM
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So what's the verdict. Hole the block? Maybe it's just a ringland?
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 06:41 PM
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My engine has been blessed. Its hole-y <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

We jacked it up on my trailer and took a peek. There was a chunk of block missing from the passenger side, with a nice big 2" hole in its place. The chunk was still laying on top of the starter. Looking inside the hole, we can still see the piston/rod intact and still in place. Weird.

We won't know any exact details until we tear the motor down completely. This probably will not happen until the end of December when I have some free time.

Until then, MTI and I will be discussing some future engine ideas for the next go-round. I'd like to have at least 700 rwhp with a power adder.

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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 06:51 PM
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700RWHP <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />

I guess something good is going to come out of this after all.

GOOD LUCK!
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 07:03 PM
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Ahhh,that just extra vent holes,you needed them anyway, <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> LOL

Sorry to hear about the problem,just when I was ready to come down there and race you <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> Hope you get your new setup going quickly.
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 07:40 PM
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That sucks!!! Sorry to hear..
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 08:21 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Futral Motorsports:
<strong>Sorry to hear about the problem,just when I was ready to come down there and race you <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Allan, you plan on making a trip to HRP soon? When I get my heads back, I want to do this over the Christmas Hollidays. Maybe we can arrange a trip. We can talk about it later when I come pick my block up this week.
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 08:56 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Nine Ball:
<strong>My engine has been blessed. Its hole-y <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

We jacked it up on my trailer and took a peek. There was a chunk of block missing from the passenger side, with a nice big 2" hole in its place. The chunk was still laying on top of the starter. Looking inside the hole, we can still see the piston/rod intact and still in place. Weird.

We won't know any exact details until we tear the motor down completely. This probably will not happen until the end of December when I have some free time.

Until then, MTI and I will be discussing some future engine ideas for the next go-round. I'd like to have at least 700 rwhp with a power adder.

-Tony</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yikes! That explains all of the smoke and oil.

If I did not know better, that sounds like a straight out structural block failure. Certainly not a piece of rod or piston through the block from what you described. I could see something like that happening if someone sprayed around 2000 RPM or something like that, but not on a lazy all motor pass. Weird.

Best of luck getting a new motor Tony.

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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 09:02 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by WeatherGuy:
<strong>
If I did not know better, that sounds like a straight out structural block failure. Certainly not a piece of rod or piston through the block from what you described.
Greg</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hmm, I doubt ther was enough stress on the block to cause it just to crack like that unless it was previously damaged. Hard to say until it gets torn down and inspected. I bet Tony will be staying away from sleeves on his next motor and fill in the void with a healthy dose of the good stuff <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

Best of luck Tony, hope you are back in the pilot's seat soon.
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 09:10 PM
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My guess is a rod came thru the window. Sorry to hear about another round of destruction Tony....
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 09:11 PM
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Just curious how many miles were on this block. Is this the 'experiment' block I've read about in the past? Kinda scary. Good luck and I hope you're up and running soon.
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 09:15 PM
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Great times on those 18s. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> Don't feel bad for Tony, this gives him an excuse for more power. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 09:24 PM
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If you came out to CA you would be running those times on slicks. Your 18's are almost equivalent to ET Streets on our local tracks. If you think I am exagerating ask Tom the Roofer.

I am sorry to hear about the motor. Seems like a rather castrophic failure. I bet you lost a rod bolt. I can't imagine you snapped a forged rod NA.
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 10:13 PM
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Sorry to hear about your block Tony <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" /> It's nice to see you run in what I consider to be the most challenging type of drag racing, true street trim with full exhaust and non-DOT tires. I still can't imagine 1.9x 60' times on an 18" street tire though.....awesome driving! How did you launch?

To answer your question though the fastest I have personally seen is 10.87 @ 137 MPH.

Of course my goal is just to get into the high 11's with street tires but I have to figure out traction first...at least my new clutch is in <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 11:24 PM
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Sorry about the bad new Tony, but at least you had some fun before it happened. On the bright side, you can just put a bigger motor in for your Xmas gift to youself! Hope everything works out for the best Tony!
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 11:34 PM
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Sorry to hear that! Hope you get it ready by spring break.
By what you discribed I'm just wondering...
A C5R block has added ribs on the outside to strengthen it. Could this be another weak point with sleeved stock blocks?

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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 09:17 AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Don't feel bad for Tony, this gives him an excuse for more power</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">LOL! Damn Justin, you know me TOO well <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I bet you lost a rod bolt. I can't imagine you snapped a forged rod NA.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm thinking the same thing. The chunk of block that we found had a scuff kinda shaped like the head of a bolt hitting it.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I still can't imagine 1.9x 60' times on an 18" street tire though.....awesome driving! How did you launch?</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Actually, my best 60' that night was a 1.84 on the 18" radials. Unfortunately, it was one of my earlier passes and I gave it too much throttle afterwards and spun all the way thru 2nd and 3rd. Only ran an 11.55 on that pass. I was basically slipping the Cartek clutch out, trying to hold the rpm around 2800-3000 rpm steadily until I felt the weight transfer. The front HAL shocks work wonders, even on street tires. I also ran a completely full tank of gas to try and weigh down the rear a bit more.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">To answer your question though the fastest I have personally seen is 10.87 @ 137 MPH</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That was all-motor? In an LS1? I think Colonel ran a time like that, but it was on Nittos.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Could this be another weak point with sleeved stock blocks?</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Nope, this is the first time this has happened, and you can clearly see that something hit the block from the inside to make it break.

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