History making LS1
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Re: History making LS1 Ok, point taken.
I just have had my run ins with "stock" cylinder heads in other classes that were far from stock. The guy that I race with has been approached by reps from several outfits telling all that they could do for us.
Since you seem to be involved with this program, I will take you statement at face value and accept what you say as being truthful.
Congrats to you and Al...
I just have had my run ins with "stock" cylinder heads in other classes that were far from stock. The guy that I race with has been approached by reps from several outfits telling all that they could do for us.
Since you seem to be involved with this program, I will take you statement at face value and accept what you say as being truthful.
Congrats to you and Al...
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Re: History making LS1 *cough* Acid *cough Ahem
Who cares what they do, its still a 346, and it runs 9s! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
As far as Cylinder head stuff goes, there is a lot in the valvejob. I remember agostino briefly talking about that.
Hey, Al hasnt told us his combo, Lets Flame him!! <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" />
All Kidding aside, Hightech and Al combined make one helluva combo <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
Who cares what they do, its still a 346, and it runs 9s! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
As far as Cylinder head stuff goes, there is a lot in the valvejob. I remember agostino briefly talking about that.
Hey, Al hasnt told us his combo, Lets Flame him!! <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" />
All Kidding aside, Hightech and Al combined make one helluva combo <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
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Re: History making LS1 Don't know why not knowing about Stk/Elim makes you stupid... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
engine with max .070 overbore, stock replacement rod allowed, stk crank, stk oil pan and pump, stk replacement piston with stk dimension rings, unported heads, stk valve size, stock lift cam (.500), unmodified manifold and t.b., any header and management system.
GM 3sp auto, any converter, 12 bolt diff, any gear, stock suspension with bolt on traction device, 9" wide by 30" tall slick, stock interior (minus back seat).
engine with max .070 overbore, stock replacement rod allowed, stk crank, stk oil pan and pump, stk replacement piston with stk dimension rings, unported heads, stk valve size, stock lift cam (.500), unmodified manifold and t.b., any header and management system.
GM 3sp auto, any converter, 12 bolt diff, any gear, stock suspension with bolt on traction device, 9" wide by 30" tall slick, stock interior (minus back seat).
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Re: History making LS1 We now arguably own the fastest "stock" drag car in the world. Good thing he didn't buy into that manual tranny nonsense (I'm assumming there actually is a matching manual tranny class for "AFI") <img border="0" alt="[evil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" /> J/K
Congrats to Al...I wonder what HE could get a "stock internal" car to run <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Probably faster than his 9.97... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_images/icons/tongue.gif" />
<small>[ February 06, 2003, 12:17 PM: Message edited by: Plum Crazy Rob ]</small>
Congrats to Al...I wonder what HE could get a "stock internal" car to run <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Probably faster than his 9.97... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_images/icons/tongue.gif" />
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Re: History making LS1 </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">originally posted by Fly By:
Hey, Al hasnt told us his combo, Lets Flame him!! <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" />
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> Who is this Al guy anyway <img border="0" alt="[evil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" /> ??? No way 9.97 on 346 CID + .070 over!!! I'm gonna have to raise the flag <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" />
<img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" /> ROTFLMAO <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" />
Hey, Al hasnt told us his combo, Lets Flame him!! <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" />
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> Who is this Al guy anyway <img border="0" alt="[evil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" /> ??? No way 9.97 on 346 CID + .070 over!!! I'm gonna have to raise the flag <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" />
<img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" /> ROTFLMAO <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" />
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Re: History making LS1 For those who think the motor is even close to stock, not by a mile. Ask his engine builder what it cost him, you could build a hell of a stroker motor for it. These guys keep secrets worse than cheating wives. The crank hp these motors make will rival large strokers. The bad thing about racing stock eliminator is you have to stick to a motor program to get better every year. Otherwise you fall behind. Its damn expensive racing but fun as hell.
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Re: History making LS1 also, the trannmissions they run in stock to keep weights down are usually serviced every 2-3 races, hell with what Al spends on transmissions alone you could build a 11-10 second f-body from a stock patient! Stock and Super Stock are my favorite race classes, but rest assured, besides comp eliminator, some classes are VERY expensive to run in, let alone be at the top of the class like Al. I can't wait to watch class eliminations at the Gatornationals this year! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> ever watch Al's car launch from the 1000 foot mark? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> WOW!
<small>[ February 08, 2003, 08:51 AM: Message edited by: Villain281H ]</small>
<small>[ February 08, 2003, 08:51 AM: Message edited by: Villain281H ]</small>
Re: History making LS1 </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by HTMtrSprt:
<strong> Another great reason for LS1 owners everywhere to be proud. Al Corda just made the first ever 9 sec. pass in Stock Eliminator at a national event with his 2002 Firebird. The car went 9.974 @ 132 MPH in the first round of qualifying at the Winternationals at Pomona in the new fuel injected class - A/FIA. This is the fastest actual run ever recorded by a stock eliminator car of any kind.
Congratulations Al </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Congrats to Al and all his support crew (you, etc.). If you can answer, what was raceweight (with Big Al in it). I've got the factored hp and weight range and assume he was down low.
Also, can you saw what gearing and stall he's running these days? If not, I surely understand. Take care.
<strong> Another great reason for LS1 owners everywhere to be proud. Al Corda just made the first ever 9 sec. pass in Stock Eliminator at a national event with his 2002 Firebird. The car went 9.974 @ 132 MPH in the first round of qualifying at the Winternationals at Pomona in the new fuel injected class - A/FIA. This is the fastest actual run ever recorded by a stock eliminator car of any kind.
Congratulations Al </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Congrats to Al and all his support crew (you, etc.). If you can answer, what was raceweight (with Big Al in it). I've got the factored hp and weight range and assume he was down low.
Also, can you saw what gearing and stall he's running these days? If not, I surely understand. Take care.
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Re: History making LS1 </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Villain281H:
<strong> also, the trannmissions they run in stock to keep weights down are usually serviced every 2-3 races, hell with what Al spends on transmissions alone you could build a 11-10 second f-body from a stock patient</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Al's trans is a Scott McClay built metric 200 and it gets freshened about every 150 passes.
The race weight on the 9.97 run was 2950lb with 750 ft. corrected altitude. The rear end gear varies with class and weight .... 4.56, 4.75, or 4.88. The stall speed is over 5000 RPM but less than 6000.
HiTech
<strong> also, the trannmissions they run in stock to keep weights down are usually serviced every 2-3 races, hell with what Al spends on transmissions alone you could build a 11-10 second f-body from a stock patient</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Al's trans is a Scott McClay built metric 200 and it gets freshened about every 150 passes.
The race weight on the 9.97 run was 2950lb with 750 ft. corrected altitude. The rear end gear varies with class and weight .... 4.56, 4.75, or 4.88. The stall speed is over 5000 RPM but less than 6000.
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Re: History making LS1 thank you.
Would you be able to tell us the max RPM Al hits on a pass? If you want to do like on stall and give a "range"...that's good too <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
I suppose we can figure it from gear/tire diam pretty close...is the converter a lockup type?
<small>[ February 08, 2003, 09:18 PM: Message edited by: Plum Crazy Rob ]</small>
Would you be able to tell us the max RPM Al hits on a pass? If you want to do like on stall and give a "range"...that's good too <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
I suppose we can figure it from gear/tire diam pretty close...is the converter a lockup type?
<small>[ February 08, 2003, 09:18 PM: Message edited by: Plum Crazy Rob ]</small>
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Re: History making LS1 Watching the Winternats on ESPN2..start of the show, as they were giving the track details, they stated it was at the NHRA limit of 1% downhill...14 feet.
Can't hurt. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Can't hurt. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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Re: History making LS1 </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Plum Crazy Rob:
<strong> thank you.
Would you be able to tell us the max RPM Al hits on a pass? If you want to do like on stall and give a "range"...that's good too <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
I suppose we can figure it from gear/tire diam pretty close...is the converter a lockup type? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">RPM depends on weight and other factors as well but 7200 - 7600 is common. The converter is non-lockup as the only way to use a lockup converter under NHRA rules is to use a 700R4 trans which is too heavy to make the car perform as it does.
<strong> thank you.
Would you be able to tell us the max RPM Al hits on a pass? If you want to do like on stall and give a "range"...that's good too <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
I suppose we can figure it from gear/tire diam pretty close...is the converter a lockup type? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">RPM depends on weight and other factors as well but 7200 - 7600 is common. The converter is non-lockup as the only way to use a lockup converter under NHRA rules is to use a 700R4 trans which is too heavy to make the car perform as it does.
