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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 02:58 PM
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Well now that Im running a PT4400 and a 4.10 gear from the old setup which consisted of a SS4000 and a 3.42 gear, its time to wire up the tranny to lock up in 3rd. So what I was wanting to know is when do I need to lock it up?
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 05:42 PM
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why do you want to or think you need to?
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 10:10 AM
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I have lots of slippage on the top end and from what everyone is saying, my 1/4 mile MPH is low based on the 1/8 mile MPH.
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 10:33 AM
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what is the 1/8 and 1/4 times?
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 04:58 PM
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60 ft.: 1.58
1/8th: 7.11
MPH: 96.40
1/4: 11.22
MPH: 116.90
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 05:51 PM
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Try it at the 1000' marker
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 06:12 PM
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I DO NOT recommend locking up a Yank converter.

Yank uses a light weight piston that isn't built for being locked up under wide open throttle.

Aren't you running a 200R4? If so, the main problem you have is trying to compare what you car is doing to a 4L60E..
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 06:48 PM
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Under the sub-title Lock-up Race Converters is listed the Pro Thruster 4400, which is what Im running. Also under the description says, 245mm, Stall speed 4000 and 4400, Posi Lock-Up Clutch w/Kevlar Linings, lightweight billet cover, 2.5 STR. Why wouldnt I be able to lock it up? I know lots of people locking up their converters. Why wouldnt I be able to?
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Umm.. your kidding right?

Psst.. big hint for you.. all LS1 4L60 converters are "lock up" converters. They are designed for drivability reasons to lock at part throttle.
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 08:55 PM
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correct me if I am wrong but I belive you do not want to lock the converter at the strip. the lock-up is simply for driveability on the street.
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 11:00 PM
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In the past I know that locking the converter was done while running the 1/4 so 4.xx geared cars would not run out or RPM.
I do not think it is a good thing to do. It will put way too much stress on the converter lockup clutch.

See link below:

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...Lock-Up+Clutch
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 09:41 AM
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WILWAXU, I wasnt kidding. I simply dont know, that is why Im asking. You dont have to get an attitude about it. I know the purpose of locking up the converter for drivability issues, but I didnt know that it was bad to lock it up at WOT. I also know that the 4L60E converters are all lock up. Ive just seen so many people say that they lock their converter up at the track for MPH reasons, slippage at the top end, and if they run out of motor/rpms. Sorry I didnt know...
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackBeaSSt
WILWAXU, I wasnt kidding. I simply dont know, that is why Im asking. You dont have to get an attitude about it. I know the purpose of locking up the converter for drivability issues, but I didnt know that it was bad to lock it up at WOT. I also know that the 4L60E converters are all lock up. Ive just seen so many people say that they lock their converter up at the track for MPH reasons, slippage at the top end, and if they run out of motor/rpms. Sorry I didnt know...
LOL. if you think that was attitude, you need to get out more.

The problem is you ask 5000 questions, then never listen to what someone tells you. Usually asking the same question time and time again.

Then when you do something totally off the wall and it doesn't work, we get 500 more questions as to why it didn't work..

IMO, talk/type less and read/listen more.
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 12:38 PM
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Do you just wanna see 11.22 @ 117.9?
Then you would be happy?
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by WILWAXU
LOL. if you think that was attitude, you need to get out more.

Maybe it was his brother that thought it was attitude?
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Old Dec 24, 2004 | 02:29 PM
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Idiot alert. BlackBeaSSt is at it again. Nine jillion posts on how to split hairs.

At least he's not posting much anymore in the Texas section.
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 09:19 AM
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BlackBeaSSt -- consider this your *LAST* warning on deleting posts ... You are not a moderator, it is not your place to be deleting posts. Users have been granted the ability to remove a thread they started for things like mistaken double posts, mistaken post in wrong forum, etc. You DO NOT delete a thread because you don't like the answer you received or you took someone's response the wrong way.

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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 09:32 AM
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aside from whether it hurts the converter locking it up at wot...it IS an advantage if youre car is set up properly to ulitlize it. Some will have more advantage than others...but it most cases it is an advantage.

tell nmra p/s racer Rich Groh that locking the converter is NO advantage. he will laugh at you.
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by WILWAXU
Umm.. your kidding right?

Psst.. big hint for you.. all LS1 4L60 converters are "lock up" converters. They are designed for drivability reasons to lock at part throttle.
Actually you can order non lock up 4L60 and 4L60E converters but I dont know why you would.
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Old Dec 31, 2004 | 02:10 PM
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I lock up mine in 3rd at about 5500 rpm. I ran 10.53 on 200 shot. 3200 vig. converter. Will drop et by about .1
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